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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg last week Chris

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O'Brien was off wasn't just a leisurely

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weekend off he attended a UFO convention

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in Northern California in the Silicon

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Valley and we had Nick Redfern on hand

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and he had some very fascinating

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comments to make particularly about

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whether there was a UFO crash or a

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series of UFO crashes in Kingman Arizona

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anyway Chris is back at the old stand

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and a little bit ornery this week

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because this UFO convention didn't turn

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out so well well wasn't that it was just

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you know it's like I was in a nightmare

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of sorts I just to me it is absolutely

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imperative that this field come up with

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a way to vet people before they're given

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any sort of stage podium pulpit to start

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spewing their confetti tales to the

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masses I just I number one i if I had

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known that certain individuals who were

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featured at this particular event we're

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going to be there I probably wouldn't

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have agreed to speak

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can we spell Sean David Morton oh my god

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exposed him the first year with our

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previous colleges you know the the guy

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was the face he was the host of the

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event and to me are you kidding me

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it was absolutely ludicrous it's like

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the guy was given some sort of blank

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slate on which to work from and to me

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someone who narrowly escaped a very very

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serious amount of prison time for Bilkey

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and I forget what the number was but it

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was somewhere around six million dollars

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I was calling him the negative six

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million dollar man

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the fact that he was able to somehow

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wiggle out of those SEC charges of when

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they had him for the roast he was the

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roaster and it was he cracked a couple

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of funny jokes but he wasn't as funny as

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he was made out to be believe me little

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pathetic actually very juvenile I have

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never seen somebody list themselves as

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doctor you know Sean David Morton PhD

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it's like either you use the alphabets

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at the end or you call yourself doctor

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you don't do both and to me it was just

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so indicative of a hyper super inflated

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ego that it was walking around like you

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know his proverbial Murr day didn't

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stink and it did I I'm sorry I've just

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got problems with giving someone like

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that who obviously built millions of

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dollars out of people to pretend like it

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didn't happen and he gets a do-over

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it's just that call X Sketch moment

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that's the official term nowadays a

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political arena but even worse though

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you know you can give yourself any kind

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of title for your degree or alleged

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degree like I would just occasionally

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with Jim Mosely we call ourselves BLT

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that's our degree bacon lettuce and

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tomato so that's as authentic as what

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Shawn David Morton has and I remember

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when he was on the show back in 2006 we

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had him on a couple of times and he'd

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make claims about knowing famous people

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but when you actually looked up whether

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he knew these people of course it didn't

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happen the guy was just making it all up

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there was a guy named Ross Myers who

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started a site called UFO watchdog calm

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and we had control of it for a while

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he's got it back but his primary goal

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today is to continue to serve as a

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watchdog to the shenanigans of Sean

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David Morton how was the attendance by

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the way this was the first annual UFO

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con which I think was it was aptly named

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and it was kind of picked up where

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Victoria Jack's left off of the UFO Expo

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which she went ran into the ground after

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12 years Bob Dean was left uh you know

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he had to pay his own hotel room and

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didn't get his per diem I think they

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left Charl

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halt at the at the airport it was just a

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nightmare

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so the Booker's who worked with Victoria

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Brian hall and and his partner DeLorean

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were the ones that picked up the reins

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and and are re-establishing this

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particular conference in venue and they

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had maybe 250 300 people there but I'm

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telling you it was it was like walking

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around in some sort of weird

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kaleidoscopic kind of daze the true

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believer crowd was out in force and it

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was pretty amazing to see that the

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speaker panel was quite interesting

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there was 13 of us crammed up there from

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Alfred Webber and rube asaji Oh Laura

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Eisenhower to this this new face on the

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block

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Douglas Dietrich now this guy is he's

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he's a real piece of work man I need to

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do a little research on this guy because

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boy I'd say he's coming up with some

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outrageous stuff revisionist World War

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two history very interesting me rich

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Dolan and I kind of were trying hard not

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to crack up in moments but you know the

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whole thing is that that these people

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aren't vetted nobody's checking their

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credentials and in terms of outrageous

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claims I mean Anubis Aussie oh I mean

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this guy he takes the cake we got to get

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him on the show I mean he's very

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well-spoken he presents his information

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in a very in a very matter-of-fact

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manner I didn't sit through his

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presentation but I slowly am becoming

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aware of some of the details of his

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claims of being a child time traveler

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for the government and then he of course

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the the brouhaha that arose about a

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month and a half ago claiming that he

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was trained by Ed Ames and he and Laura

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Eisenhower met Barry Sottero Barack

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Obama on Mars I mean where do I can tell

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you what just listening to your stream

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of consciousness there Barack Obama on

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Mars and I understand you know we have a

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very polarized climate in the US as

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people around the world listen to the

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show know and there are people who

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regard Obama

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some kind of other but not an other from

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another planet or may have traveled

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there and other because he wasn't born

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in this country allegedly that's one of

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the conspiracy theories but you know it

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sounds to me like you take a bullet

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point and you say how many wacky things

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can I think of and you make the largest

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bullet point list you can and you read

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off them it doesn't matter what you

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can't prove anything but this guy Andrew

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passaggio you say he probably would come

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on a pair of cast well he's he he has

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shown interest in coming on the show and

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I think he'd be a great guest very

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well-spoken the guy's got three or four

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degrees he claims and is a practicing

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lawyer in Washington State so we're

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talking about a bright guy I mean how

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Fred Weber has a law degree from Yale if

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these guys aren't delusional then

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they've got to be some sort of plants in

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the field disinformation agents or

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something I can't for the life of me

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believe at face value some of the things

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that they claim I mean it doesn't matter

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what comes along whoever's gonna sign

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off on him pretty much but this

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passaggio and in eisenhower characters

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these two I just don't know how people

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can suspend their disbelief and not

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question these people and find out you

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know they don't have any evidence

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whatsoever to back these claims up I

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mean nothing zilch nada there's nothing

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there to my knowledge that would even

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allow them to be let into the building

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you need something anything besides just

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your version of events I know I should

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here the people who put this event

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together they're aware of the fact that

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these people have no real authority and

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the things they say they were just

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looking to fill crowds and fill er yeah

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they were look they were looking for as

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Brian put it we were looking for a wide

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range of speakers coming from various

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points of view within the field I guess

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I was added as some sort of sideshow I

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ended up up there preaching to the crowd

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saying don't you understand you're

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sitting in the in the the pews of the

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Church of the new religion can I get an

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amen you know

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up there come on boy this would have

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been fun it sounds like it well it's all

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shapes oh I can't wait to see the tape

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of course again I tried to you know put

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him for our talking to less than ninety

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minutes so it was a little difficult but

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I got comments from my talk we're all

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over the all over the board we'll go

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into a team or maybe in our introductory

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part for the next show because we have a

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guest today well we do you do indeed

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yeah Mike Berra is author of a book

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called ancient aliens on the moon you

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know let's go to the moon yes we might

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go to the moon with this subject or we

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might follow what Jackie Gleason said so

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many years ago on that famous sitcom to

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the moon I'll say to the moon Mike

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something of that nature where this host

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show may be out of space I don't know

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except he was co-authored a book with

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Richard Hoagland I see so yeah well

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we're gonna have to get into that little

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association I'm sure we're gonna go into

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that Mike bear is coming up next

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with Gene and Kris you're in the para

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monetary unit we call the Federal

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these questions and more can be answered

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by reading G Edward Griffin book the

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creature from Jekyll Island congressman

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gripping adventure into the secret world

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of international banking cartel hi this

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ask.com we have Mike Barrow joining us

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his latest book is called ancient aliens

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on the moon

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but his bio says he's a New York Times

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bestselling author so Mike welcome to

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the para cast what book was the

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bestseller that was that was the book

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icon well with Richard C Hoagland didn't

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so titled dark mission the secret

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history of netha and we reached that

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pinnacle in the in 2007 it was really

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pretty exciting okay so what is the

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secret mission of NASA let's talk about

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that very briefly before you'd get to

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what's going on on the moon

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well you know it's interesting because

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because we do talk about a lot of the

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artifacts on the moon in dark mission

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but but the difference between that book

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and this one is that is a dark mission

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was really focused not just on the

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reality that there are these

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these ruins pretty much all over the

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solar system but on the very extensive

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political cover-up that that NASA's been

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engaged in she's really the dawn of the

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Space Agency and so it has a lot to do

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with the the deeper conspiracy questions

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the political issues the politics of

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science essentially how any idea that is

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you know not part of the established

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orthodoxy is completely frozen out of of

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any opportunity for an open review you

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know in the scientific literature and

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it's very closed system and and it's

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just something where you know they do

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not allow you to speak up things if they

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do not approve up and that okay but the

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point we have to have here Mike is so we

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have of course the claim that there are

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artifacts on the moon on Mars the

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implication being these are

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intelligently constructed is that

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correct yeah absolutely and you know I

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mean it doesn't take it doesn't take

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very much of a set of eyes to really

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appreciate that this stuff is is from a

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very highly advanced technology and the

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interesting thing is that is alien as it

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must be because of our understanding of

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history the reality is if you look at

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this structure it does it does tend to

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follow human engineering standards and

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that's one of the reasons why you know

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with my engineering background I kind of

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look at the stuff that was being

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presented and said hey this this all

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makes sense from an engineering

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standpoint or an architectural

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standpoint so we're still dealing with

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something Mike that is disputed I mean

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yeah you may feel that these artifacts I

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assume you mean a sign Mars and all this

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stuff it's not disputed by anybody who

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knows what they're looking at or anybody

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who has a brain I understand that you

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believe these are not disputed but

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you're saying that if someone says they

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don't believe these are intelligently

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constructed artifacts they don't have a

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brain that's going a little too far doc

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you think I'm saying that there's no

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valid argument or position what makes

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you feel and I assume Richard Hoagland

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probably

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with you on a lot of these things what

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makes you and Hoagland believe that say

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the face on Mars is really an artificial

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construction not some kind of random

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Rorschach test well because there's

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nothing random about it first of all it

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has parallel lines in a parallel

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segments or there's two distinct halves

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one of which when you cemetery it over

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it's clearly a human face one of which

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we need symmetry over the other side

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appears to be leontyne it appears to be

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a feline face it has features at at a

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very far away from a very far away

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perspective clearly has artificial

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features it's very symmetrical and from

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a Klose perspective it has very specific

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detailed features which indicates that

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it's a constructed artifact and that

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includes all kinds of things there's a

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there's an eyeball in the eye socket

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there the eye itself is shaped on the

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right hand side and shaped like a human

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eye it even has an invocation but

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appeared up there's a brow Ridge there's

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nostrils in the nose there's been some

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indication of teeth in the mouth from

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some of the imagery and from all the

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different images we have in the face

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just as an isolated object it shows all

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the aspects and I think anybody would

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logically look for in a constructed

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artifact or money as opposed to just

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some sort of random kill I've never seen

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a random kill of any kind that even

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remotely resembles the face in terms of

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it it's overwhelming you know facial

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characteristics now in addition to the

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face on Mars and I'm gonna ask you

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another question about that in a moment

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what other artifacts might we see on

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Mars that might indicate some sort of

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intelligent presence at one time or

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another

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there are objects that have pyramidal

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shapes there's a large object about a

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mile and a half across about a mile and

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a half high called the DNN pyramid which

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is a pentagonal pyramid it's impossible

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participants if I win it is got a very

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consistent internal geometry there is a

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relationship that geometry is related to

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other objects in the area which also

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appear to be geologically anomalous

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so in the case of base on Mars there's

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there's all kinds of different things

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around the face

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also occurred on official Indian amma's

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for instance bilaterally symmetrical

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around two different axes and that again

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not something that ever happens in

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nature it's not something that could

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happen in trillion with years much less

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billions of years which is no soon gauge

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our universe so you know again if face

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was completely isolated then there's

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nothing else around it you could make

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the argument that it was just some

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amazing stroke of luck I suppose it

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looks like but all around it all the

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other artificial objects and they have

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significant mathematically significant

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relationships geometric relationships to

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each other okay and of course there's

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several other levels of detail we can go

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into about that if you want to talk

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about Mars well I think one of the

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things I want to ask you about Mars

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won't get to the moon in a moment is we

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have NASA sending these probes the lunar

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Rovers whatever landing on Mars checking

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it out for evidence of intelligent life

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in the past but they're not looking at

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these artifacts are they actually they

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they are not looking at these artifacts

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specifically but they there are lots of

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interesting things that they come across

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in their travels there was I believe it

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was opportunity came to an area called

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home plate about five or six years ago

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which kind of looks like it might have

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once been the foundation of something

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artificial and as you look around the

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debris field for what NASA says what

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NASA says our lives but your actions to

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your objects that have characteristics

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of formed fabricating mechanical

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engineering engineering that's that's

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what I see I see stuff that has would

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look like wreck air conditioners and

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pumps and all kinds of mechanical

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equipment it just happened to look you

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know conspicuously like artifact so the

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question is you know is this are they

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deliberately they're looking for

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artifacts and they just see this stuff

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which of course I don't believe for a

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minute or or these areas places where

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they felt they could land faintly

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do some private investigation and be

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able to pop up what they show us not for

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the average person who doesn't really

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grasp it but looking at I've got a

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couple of questions for you Mike this

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Chris O'Brien here welcome to the show

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I just recently just got back yesterday

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from the UFO Con in Santa Clara

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California where one of the speaker's

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was this fairly recent arrival in the

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field named Andrew basashi oh are you

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familiar with his claims about finding

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life on Mars a number of years ago and

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have you have you seen any of the

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photographs that he purports our

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evidence of humanoid forms and other

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things on Mars to me it's just a case of

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very an overactive imagination in some

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sort of pareidolia but what's your take

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on his claims

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Mike I hold off the answer for one a

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second here we gotta do a break okay all

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right so we'll get that out of the way

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we have Mike Berra he's author of

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ancient aliens on the moon in other

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works

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and you are tuned in to the para cast

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let me tell you what you're gonna hear

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stuff here that you probably won't hear

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anywhere else hear that George Noory

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Mike barrage owning us the power cast

644
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with Gene and with Chris he's author of

645
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ancient aliens on the moon but he's also

646
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covered the mysteries of Mars now Chris

647
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O'Brien had asked a very detailed

648
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question ahead of our break Mike you got

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the question what's your response well

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first of all before I get to Andrew I'd

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like a deal with this idea of paranoia

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there's no such thing

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it's an invented term it is not a

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scientific term it has never been

655
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investigated there are no scientific

656
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papers on it

657
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it was basically coined by a debunker

658
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and I actually covered this in in

659
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ancient aliens on the moon a little bit

660
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there's no such thing as the human

661
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tendency to see patterns where there are

662
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none now having said that there are

663
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people that do have somewhat overactive

664
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imaginations I don't know this

665
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Andrew guy personally at all Andrew

666
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basiago

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I don't know I'm very well from what

668
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I've seen of what he's claimed I'm not

669
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too impressed by it

670
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there are funny-looking things but you

671
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can also get tricked by you know by

672
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lights light and shadows you can

673
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definitely be tricked by certain stuff

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and I just have to say I don't know

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enough about his specific claims or his

676
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specific images to really make a comment

677
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on it what what we do have is we do have

678
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this sort of mythology about there being

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a secret space program that actually

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goes all the way back to the astronauts

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back in the Apollo era who were

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overheard by people that I know

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personally so it is hearsay so again

684
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somebody told me passing a 40 stay there

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before you proceed with what they told

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you Mike the people who told you this

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personally were they in the no they were

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not the people in the know but they were

689
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sitting right there when the astronaut

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said yeah there's a secret space program

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we're just family can they've already

692
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been to the moon they've already been to

693
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Mars so these rumors have been floating

694
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around since the early 1960s when these

695
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conversations were overheard but the

696
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question is you know

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Hennig andrew has claimed that he's

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actually been to Mars in one of these

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these hyperships that he's why I'm

700
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talking I was gonna decide yeah I can't

701
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I can't comment on it because I don't

702
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know much about his claims in detail and

703
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I I prefer to stick with this stuff but

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I can really put my finger on and feel

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is very solid and and that I really you

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know say to myself okay this this is

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something that that I think I can it's

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not just somebody's story I can actually

709
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back it up I think right good answer

710
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:36,050
very good answer here's my other

711
00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:38,000
question Richard Hoagland is not known

712
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as the maybe as much of a team player as

713
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some people would like him to be I'm

714
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:46,880
interested to know what it was like

715
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working with him on dark mission and in

716
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light of some of the relationships that

717
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he's had in the past that kind of went

718
00:29:58,930 --> 00:29:56,480
south I would imagine he would not be

719
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the most the easiest guy to work with he

720
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that he would be kind of difficult what

721
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was it like working with him on that

722
00:30:06,580 --> 00:30:04,430
project it's a very good book by the way

723
00:30:09,010 --> 00:30:06,590
well I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say

724
00:30:13,030 --> 00:30:09,020
that it is not easy to work with him

725
00:30:17,740 --> 00:30:13,040
he's very demanding perfectionist he has

726
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his own perspective on on everything and

727
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and I will say this but I'm working with

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him for about 15 years the vast majority

729
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of the time he ends up in the long run

730
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being being proven correct there's very

731
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few things that I feel like that I've

732
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worked with him on certainly but I don't

733
00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:30,920
feel like he can back up very very

734
00:30:36,460 --> 00:30:34,190
solidly so it's a it's difficult it was

735
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:36,470
dark mission was a huge project it was

736
00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:40,130
it was a very very detail and and he

737
00:30:45,460 --> 00:30:41,750
said you know neither did a demanding

738
00:30:46,810 --> 00:30:45,470
person but that's how he gets to so many

739
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things that he gets to you in other

740
00:30:51,730 --> 00:30:49,520
words if he didn't have that very

741
00:30:53,710 --> 00:30:51,740
intentional singular focus he wouldn't

742
00:30:55,390 --> 00:30:53,720
have found all the things that he's

743
00:30:57,630 --> 00:30:55,400
found and I think he's got some

744
00:31:01,030 --> 00:30:57,640
extraordinary stuff on the moon on Mars

745
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:01,040
in other places so you know it's one of

746
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:02,930
those things where you know it's just

747
00:31:08,650 --> 00:31:05,810
not that easy to it's not that easy to

748
00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:08,660
be as intense about everything as he is

749
00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:11,180
it's more that I think but people miss

750
00:31:16,450 --> 00:31:14,360
mistake is if it's that singular focus

751
00:31:18,790 --> 00:31:16,460
to sometimes mistaken for selfishness

752
00:31:19,570 --> 00:31:18,800
and really it's just that he wants to

753
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get the information

754
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and he's very demanding about the way in

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00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:23,960
which it's presented and you know if

756
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your name is going to be on it I guess I

757
00:31:30,340 --> 00:31:28,070
can understand so you know I mean again

758
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:30,350
there the thing is that these books I

759
00:31:34,390 --> 00:31:32,480
would love for the ancient aliens on the

760
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moon and hopefully the next one inch

761
00:31:38,770 --> 00:31:36,470
namely Umbra Mars I would love to be

762
00:31:41,740 --> 00:31:38,780
working with him on these projects but

763
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:41,750
it is just it's like wow you got it you

764
00:31:45,790 --> 00:31:43,730
got to add a lot of extra time too and a

765
00:31:48,430 --> 00:31:45,800
lot of extra detail and main things I

766
00:31:50,140 --> 00:31:48,440
didn't want to go into if if I want to

767
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:50,150
work with Richard ah it's it's gonna be

768
00:31:54,130 --> 00:31:52,370
his show okay but I wanted to ask him

769
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:54,140
more about the secret space program

770
00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:56,090
since we raised it do you personally

771
00:32:00,850 --> 00:31:58,970
believe that there was and or is a

772
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:00,860
secret space program well there

773
00:32:05,650 --> 00:32:02,690
certainly I think there certainly is a

774
00:32:07,090 --> 00:32:05,660
lot of evidence like setting up spy

775
00:32:09,070 --> 00:32:07,100
satellites or stuff like that we

776
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:09,080
understand no no I I know what we're

777
00:32:13,390 --> 00:32:10,610
talking about we're talking about like

778
00:32:14,860 --> 00:32:13,400
UFOs technology so just answer it in a

779
00:32:17,740 --> 00:32:14,870
very short turn first

780
00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:17,750
absolutely I think that we've had flying

781
00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:19,430
saucer technology ask meaning the United

782
00:32:27,130 --> 00:32:22,660
States probably since the 1950s or 60s

783
00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:27,140
and Roswell is that what you're saying

784
00:32:31,390 --> 00:32:29,150
well it could have come from Roswell

785
00:32:33,580 --> 00:32:31,400
another place it could have come from is

786
00:32:35,650 --> 00:32:33,590
the Nazi need programs a very advanced

787
00:32:37,630 --> 00:32:35,660
physics or not the Nazis weren't

788
00:32:39,550 --> 00:32:37,640
involved with it really earned about you

789
00:32:41,380 --> 00:32:39,560
want to read by dr. Joseph Carroll's

790
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books especially Reich in the Black Sun

791
00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:43,370
and the Brotherhood of the Bell when

792
00:32:48,130 --> 00:32:45,950
Henry Stevens is oh yeah okay I don't

793
00:32:49,930 --> 00:32:48,140
know so much about him but but where

794
00:32:51,820 --> 00:32:49,940
they were working that was very very

795
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:51,830
advanced unified field type of

796
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:54,410
technology and you know my second book

797
00:32:58,510 --> 00:32:56,330
the choice in that book I really talk

798
00:33:00,520 --> 00:32:58,520
about how physics got all messed up and

799
00:33:03,910 --> 00:33:00,530
it kind of went sideways that in the

800
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early 20th century and meantime the the

801
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Germans didn't feel it all constricted

802
00:33:12,340 --> 00:33:10,850
by Einstein or by Newton or relativity

803
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:12,350
and they went off in some very bizarre

804
00:33:17,170 --> 00:33:15,440
directions and created some really

805
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,180
interesting technologies that that

806
00:33:22,540 --> 00:33:19,760
somehow just sort of disappeared in the

807
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:22,550
late 1950s now the other thing excuse me

808
00:33:26,050 --> 00:33:24,770
disappeared how well they just kind of

809
00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:26,060
went out of the literature there was a

810
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:28,190
lot of research going on in terms of

811
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magnetic drives and counter rotating

812
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:31,700
magnetic fields and something within the

813
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public and then it all sort of

814
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:36,230
dried up and went away but what was

815
00:33:40,210 --> 00:33:37,970
really interesting is that you know in

816
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the choice and my previous book I did

817
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talk about the fact that that Werner von

818
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Braun had this problem that he

819
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discovered which which was that the

820
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Explorer one spacecraft went end of F in

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an orbit about 600 miles higher than it

822
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:53,840
was the coast and immediately after that

823
00:34:00,250 --> 00:33:57,170
he began to ask questions and people

824
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:00,260
like Jacques la they actually an

825
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economist that Hamilton physics had

826
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found out for instance that

827
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free-swinging pendulums will go

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backwards against the location of the

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earth during eclipses and we began to

830
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investigate the field propulsion theory

831
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:16,370
he went talk of some other German

832
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:19,490
doctors so what I suspected that that

833
00:34:22,690 --> 00:34:20,810
there's a sort of a private space

834
00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:22,700
program that already knew all this stuff

835
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:24,470
and the public space programs among

836
00:34:28,930 --> 00:34:26,570
bronzed and those people didn't really

837
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:28,940
know about this this advanced physics

838
00:34:32,890 --> 00:34:30,560
research but they kind of discovered it

839
00:34:35,169 --> 00:34:32,900
by accident when all of their spacecraft

840
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:35,179
started ending up in places other than

841
00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:37,760
where they were supposed to be and and

842
00:34:41,169 --> 00:34:39,230
they begin to realize that they were to

843
00:34:43,690 --> 00:34:41,179
somehow getting more energy into the

844
00:34:46,390 --> 00:34:43,700
system into the rocket system and they

845
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:46,400
expected and and they had to kind of get

846
00:34:49,810 --> 00:34:48,410
that problem fixed before they could

847
00:34:52,630 --> 00:34:49,820
actually go to the moon and come back

848
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:52,640
and return safe but it's something that

849
00:34:59,050 --> 00:34:56,090
that implies to me that the public

850
00:35:00,880 --> 00:34:59,060
sector based program in their sort of

851
00:35:03,460 --> 00:35:00,890
secret stuff spy satellite people the

852
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:03,470
CIA types discover this themselves in

853
00:35:07,630 --> 00:35:05,330
the early nineties so if that's the case

854
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:07,640
and I think we can probably ascribe an

855
00:35:11,230 --> 00:35:09,410
awful lot of UFO sightings probably to

856
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:11,240
our own you know experimental spacecraft

857
00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:13,490
okay there's a secret space program how

858
00:35:17,230 --> 00:35:15,590
far has it gone have we already gone to

859
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Mars for example have we returned to the

860
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moon since the 1970s that I don't I

861
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don't know from personal experience I

862
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have I have talked to people could have

863
00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:27,740
offered me a ride one of them on the

864
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condition that I could never talk about

865
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it or I'd assume rooms officer very

866
00:35:35,590 --> 00:35:33,800
quickly and I said what what's the point

867
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of going if I can't tell anybody what I

868
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:38,090
saw you know so I turned down that offer

869
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:39,920
to this point but you know there are

870
00:35:44,260 --> 00:35:41,570
people that I do know this is a person

871
00:35:46,750 --> 00:35:44,270
that I know personally but I do know is

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well-connected and if he's telling me

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that

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you've also got the whole you can

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remember the servo board thing a

876
00:36:00,250 --> 00:35:56,540
controversy became up about five years

877
00:36:01,810 --> 00:36:00,260
ago frankly we did not believe the serpo

878
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:01,820
at all it sound like a red herring

879
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:03,920
it sounded like a prank it sounded like

880
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:07,610
this information so we didn't yeah but

881
00:36:10,810 --> 00:36:09,170
if any part of it is true then that

882
00:36:12,460 --> 00:36:10,820
means we have had some extraterrestrial

883
00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:12,470
contact over the years and we may have

884
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learned things from them too so you know

885
00:36:19,450 --> 00:36:17,420
I don't know I it's actually interesting

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that these two questions about homeland

887
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and about the secret space program are

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connected because before I did my second

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book that story Richard and I were

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1003
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Mike Beier who's also written with

1004
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Richard Hoagland we're talking about the

1005
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mysteries of Mars the Moon ancient

1006
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artifacts present artifacts who knows

1007
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secret space programs so much more Chris

1008
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you have a question from one of our

1009
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:34,110
listeners since we're we're we're

1010
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starting out on Mars

1011
00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:39,030
ufology one of our longtime posters and

1012
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:41,310
and a very active poster at forum dr.

1013
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:43,950
Perik as calm as a question for you Mike

1014
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:46,890
about the Mars probe curiosity he says

1015
00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:49,170
it was lowered to the surface by a sky

1016
00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:51,240
crane a precision rocket-powered

1017
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:53,220
platform that allegedly just flew away

1018
00:41:58,430 --> 00:41:55,530
and crashed after it was done luring the

1019
00:41:59,900 --> 00:41:58,440
rover to the surface this seems like an

1020
00:42:01,700 --> 00:41:59,910
incredibly stupid thing for the

1021
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:01,710
brightest minds in our space program to

1022
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:03,930
do unless they didn't really crash it

1023
00:42:08,290 --> 00:42:05,910
how do we know for sure that it's not

1024
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:08,300
being used for some clandestine mission

1025
00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:10,770
well we all know you know we can't prove

1026
00:42:14,540 --> 00:42:12,180
a negative we don't know anything for

1027
00:42:15,740 --> 00:42:14,550
sure about that although I will say that

1028
00:42:18,290 --> 00:42:15,750
there was you know one of the first

1029
00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:18,300
pictures curiosity took was there seemed

1030
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:19,590
to be this sort of dust cloud in the

1031
00:42:23,180 --> 00:42:21,330
distance and there is speculation that

1032
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:23,190
that is where the sled the rocket sled

1033
00:42:27,770 --> 00:42:26,250
basically crashed yeah I could

1034
00:42:29,330 --> 00:42:27,780
understand the suspicion because it

1035
00:42:31,370 --> 00:42:29,340
seems like a real waste of an expensive

1036
00:42:33,890 --> 00:42:31,380
piece of equipment but there there are

1037
00:42:36,140 --> 00:42:33,900
limitations on rocket fuel and things

1038
00:42:39,410 --> 00:42:36,150
like that so you know you can't you

1039
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:39,420
can't discount the possibility or the

1040
00:42:42,590 --> 00:42:41,130
probability that it's pretty much was

1041
00:42:44,570 --> 00:42:42,600
designed exactly the way they said it

1042
00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:44,580
was I don't know what the clandestine

1043
00:42:48,830 --> 00:42:47,070
mission would be it seems to me if you

1044
00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:48,840
look at the images that come out of

1045
00:42:52,580 --> 00:42:50,760
curiosity so far and again our friend

1046
00:42:54,650 --> 00:42:52,590
mr. Holmes was spending a lot more time

1047
00:42:56,810 --> 00:42:54,660
on that than I am right now you know

1048
00:42:59,840 --> 00:42:56,820
there there are there seems to be a

1049
00:43:01,160 --> 00:42:59,850
really slow release pattern in terms of

1050
00:43:02,690 --> 00:43:01,170
the images that are being presented I'm

1051
00:43:05,230 --> 00:43:02,700
sure they have far more

1052
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:05,240
and they've released for this point and

1053
00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:07,530
some of the early images didn't really

1054
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:09,630
show you the big mountain forget the

1055
00:43:13,010 --> 00:43:11,250
name of the mountain but the first

1056
00:43:14,569 --> 00:43:13,020
harmony images showed some stuff that I

1057
00:43:16,490 --> 00:43:14,579
thought was pretty interesting looking

1058
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:16,500
but then subsequent images they really

1059
00:43:19,790 --> 00:43:18,690
didn't focus on that very much and now

1060
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:19,800
when we look at it it looks pretty

1061
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:22,770
mundane so I think it's more likely that

1062
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,839
they've been hanging onto some of the

1063
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:26,400
better photographs and images actually

1064
00:43:30,890 --> 00:43:28,770
called images than it is that the flood

1065
00:43:33,020 --> 00:43:30,900
had any sort of super-secret mission I

1066
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:33,030
mean from a from a conventional rocket

1067
00:43:37,940 --> 00:43:35,609
design standpoint the way it was

1068
00:43:40,250 --> 00:43:37,950
designed you know seems to work pretty

1069
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:40,260
well and it seems fairly logical I don't

1070
00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:41,730
I don't know what that super-secret

1071
00:43:46,490 --> 00:43:44,700
mission for the platform would be

1072
00:43:47,780 --> 00:43:46,500
because we've got a mate you know if you

1073
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:47,790
saw some of the pictures you saw the

1074
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,400
amazing picture from Mars Reconnaissance

1075
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:52,560
Orbiter of the parachutes you know in

1076
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:55,050
great detail as curiosity was

1077
00:43:59,180 --> 00:43:57,170
parachuting down to the Martian surface

1078
00:44:01,040 --> 00:43:59,190
we got pretty good cameras up there

1079
00:44:03,020 --> 00:44:01,050
right now do I have another question

1080
00:44:04,940 --> 00:44:03,030
this one's from Westar 71

1081
00:44:07,970 --> 00:44:04,950
he's been opposed to in the forum for a

1082
00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:07,980
year he says besides relying on photos

1083
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:09,780
provided by others is there a way

1084
00:44:14,030 --> 00:44:11,490
oneself could retrieve their own

1085
00:44:16,370 --> 00:44:14,040
evidence as an example how powerful of a

1086
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:16,380
lens would be needed in my telescope to

1087
00:44:20,540 --> 00:44:18,930
see something so small so far away what

1088
00:44:22,430 --> 00:44:20,550
do you think of Google moon or Google

1089
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,440
Mars silly question I realize however

1090
00:44:28,849 --> 00:44:24,480
all great things start in these manners

1091
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:28,859
maybe next is Google Galaxy yeah it's

1092
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:29,970
pretty interesting if you want to talk

1093
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:32,130
about Google Galaxy I mean some people

1094
00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:33,690
have injured very interestingly they

1095
00:44:39,230 --> 00:44:36,329
they focused up on Google described at

1096
00:44:41,660 --> 00:44:39,240
the star Sirius and it is blocked out

1097
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:41,670
there's a big like paper carting up like

1098
00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:44,010
a construction paper splatter over

1099
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:45,780
serious like what is it about seriously

1100
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:47,490
they don't want us to see into the sky

1101
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:49,290
that's pretty interesting because begin

1102
00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:50,880
a dark mission we talked about how a

1103
00:44:54,589 --> 00:44:53,400
serious and the goddess Isis which is

1104
00:44:57,620 --> 00:44:54,599
representing the Egyptian mythology

1105
00:44:59,120 --> 00:44:57,630
isn't really important to NASA so not

1106
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:59,130
some things very curious about that you

1107
00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:00,480
know Google Earth I just look at

1108
00:45:04,730 --> 00:45:02,400
something where there appeared to be

1109
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:04,740
photographs what looks like pyramids

1110
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:08,400
being constructed at area 51 that were

1111
00:45:12,859 --> 00:45:10,410
in Google Earth and are no longer in

1112
00:45:14,569 --> 00:45:12,869
Google Earth yeah I think Google the

1113
00:45:16,460 --> 00:45:14,579
whole Google pedia complex

1114
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:16,470
I think that they're they're compromised

1115
00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:18,330
there there definitely you know owned by

1116
00:45:22,580 --> 00:45:21,180
by the the powers would be and I don't

1117
00:45:24,140 --> 00:45:22,590
think that we're gonna find much from

1118
00:45:26,420 --> 00:45:24,150
them I think trying to jump in there

1119
00:45:28,130 --> 00:45:26,430
you're saying that your Google is

1120
00:45:31,099 --> 00:45:28,140
controlled by the powers that be or

1121
00:45:33,020 --> 00:45:31,109
maybe just their access well I call it

1122
00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:33,030
Google pedia it's sort of an unholy

1123
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:34,680
alliance between Wikipedia and Google

1124
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:36,210
and you know with Wikipedia they

1125
00:45:42,349 --> 00:45:40,050
basically have this group of you know

1126
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:42,359
NASA brown shirts to go around and

1127
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:45,810
anytime you try to change a page on the

1128
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:47,970
base on Mars for instance she could

1129
00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:50,490
anything bachelor accurate in there they

1130
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:52,500
go in within 30 seconds or a minute and

1131
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:55,200
take it out and it's just that you can't

1132
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:57,090
trust the information on there now

1133
00:46:02,030 --> 00:45:58,530
you're saying this is being done by NASA

1134
00:46:03,740 --> 00:46:02,040
not by individuals yeah but these are

1135
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,750
individuals who I guarantee you have

1136
00:46:07,070 --> 00:46:05,520
some affiliation with NASA or at the

1137
00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:07,080
very least of members of the Planetary

1138
00:46:09,859 --> 00:46:08,640
Society or whatever and I have what I've

1139
00:46:12,050 --> 00:46:09,869
found is that a lot of them are usually

1140
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:12,060
people that are working in you know

1141
00:46:15,620 --> 00:46:13,890
various capacities for NASA that their

1142
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:15,630
funding comes from lawful you're looking

1143
00:46:22,940 --> 00:46:19,890
at the okay sure an example of it and

1144
00:46:25,490 --> 00:46:22,950
and one of them is this you know on the

1145
00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:25,500
face on Mars page there there is a

1146
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:27,060
description there where you know they

1147
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,930
talk about how NASA took the picture and

1148
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:32,400
told everybody that it was it's a trick

1149
00:46:36,050 --> 00:46:33,690
of light and shadow and they true that

1150
00:46:38,210 --> 00:46:36,060
to be correct and I got in there several

1151
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:38,220
times tried to put in the exact quote

1152
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:40,770
that dr. Gerald Soffen then which is

1153
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:42,810
what what he said was is that you know

1154
00:46:46,070 --> 00:46:44,609
it took an image of this thing but on

1155
00:46:48,650 --> 00:46:46,080
the next door but a couple of hours

1156
00:46:50,420 --> 00:46:48,660
later it wasn't there all went away it

1157
00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:50,430
was just you know given it amazing what

1158
00:46:56,030 --> 00:46:52,920
tricks of light shadow can do well the

1159
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:56,040
fact is that two hours later first of

1160
00:47:00,500 --> 00:46:58,770
all the Viking orbiter was a polar orbit

1161
00:47:02,540 --> 00:47:00,510
Earth seeming that the planet continued

1162
00:47:04,820 --> 00:47:02,550
to rotate underneath the spacecraft and

1163
00:47:06,589 --> 00:47:04,830
that's for of it was hundreds of miles

1164
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:06,599
away from Sedona it wasn't anywhere near

1165
00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:09,210
the face on Mars it could not have taken

1166
00:47:13,490 --> 00:47:11,220
a picture because at that time so known

1167
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:13,500
yet any rate was in darkness it was

1168
00:47:18,980 --> 00:47:16,800
nighttime so that was a lot and and to

1169
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:18,990
put I tried to put that actual real

1170
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:21,210
quote in there must've been a dozen

1171
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:23,250
times and there's always these people

1172
00:47:26,750 --> 00:47:24,210
have come in there's several different

1173
00:47:28,609 --> 00:47:26,760
one yeah I look them up and then your

1174
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:28,619
cat universities that are funded by NASA

1175
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:29,910
they will come programs

1176
00:47:33,860 --> 00:47:31,530
and they immediately take it out so

1177
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:33,870
again it's all being edited and I'm just

1178
00:47:36,770 --> 00:47:35,310
saying that you can't completely trust

1179
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:36,780
what you see on Google Earth or Google

1180
00:47:42,260 --> 00:47:39,810
Moon or Wikipedia and I tend to call it

1181
00:47:43,550 --> 00:47:42,270
Google PDF because I'm at this point you

1182
00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:43,560
know I think it's great for general

1183
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:45,420
stuff but I don't think that it's

1184
00:47:48,910 --> 00:47:46,800
something that I would rely on for

1185
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:48,920
anything that involves any kind of size

1186
00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:51,090
now I'm going to go back to the secret

1187
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:54,510
space program more detail because if we

1188
00:47:59,450 --> 00:47:56,610
have secret space programs where we're

1189
00:48:01,400 --> 00:47:59,460
farther advanced along the curve why do

1190
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:01,410
we have a public space program where all

1191
00:48:06,140 --> 00:48:03,810
we're doing is cutting back well it

1192
00:48:08,030 --> 00:48:06,150
seems to me that what's really

1193
00:48:09,710 --> 00:48:08,040
interesting and again going back to some

1194
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:09,720
of Richard Colin's work this is really

1195
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:10,890
interesting cuz he created the graph

1196
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:13,530
about five years ago where he showed the

1197
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:15,510
advancement in transportation technology

1198
00:48:20,450 --> 00:48:18,480
starting with human beings walking at

1199
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:20,460
seven miles an hour and then he went to

1200
00:48:25,010 --> 00:48:22,170
you know horseback which can be that's

1201
00:48:26,930 --> 00:48:25,020
about what 1820 miles an hour and then

1202
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:26,940
we went from there to I guess the steam

1203
00:48:32,450 --> 00:48:30,090
train an automobile and the power

1204
00:48:34,430 --> 00:48:32,460
airplane and jet airplanes and then

1205
00:48:37,490 --> 00:48:34,440
rocket and this current you look at it

1206
00:48:40,580 --> 00:48:37,500
in terms of transportation technology it

1207
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:40,590
goes straight up it's just a straight up

1208
00:48:45,740 --> 00:48:43,530
curve and then in 1960 right about 1960

1209
00:48:48,350 --> 00:48:45,750
we developed rockets and ever since then

1210
00:48:52,370 --> 00:48:48,360
it's a straight line for the last 50 60

1211
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:52,380
years now we have not advanced at all in

1212
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,810
terms of our transportation technology

1213
00:48:58,970 --> 00:48:56,880
we haven't increased our speed we're

1214
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,980
still using chemical rockets and if you

1215
00:49:03,620 --> 00:49:00,720
look at the curve in the development

1216
00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:03,630
that's just not logical that's just not

1217
00:49:07,580 --> 00:49:06,180
a you know that's not the way things are

1218
00:49:09,830 --> 00:49:07,590
develop you look at microprocessor

1219
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:09,840
technology now I continue to develop you

1220
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:12,330
don't have these Dropbox so what he's

1221
00:49:16,670 --> 00:49:14,250
argued and I think it's very logical is

1222
00:49:19,010 --> 00:49:16,680
that somewhere along the line they must

1223
00:49:21,110 --> 00:49:19,020
have developed the next technology

1224
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:21,120
beyond rockets and again going back to

1225
00:49:25,010 --> 00:49:22,650
the Wernher von Braun story this is the

1226
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:25,020
prime example of where somebody was

1227
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:26,310
looking into these field propulsion

1228
00:49:29,630 --> 00:49:28,170
technologies and there were papers by

1229
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:29,640
German physics and so we're out there

1230
00:49:35,420 --> 00:49:32,880
talking about these ideas so you have it

1231
00:49:37,010 --> 00:49:35,430
this sort of confluence of information

1232
00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:37,020
and then it just sort of disappears and

1233
00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:38,310
people start talking about it publicly

1234
00:49:43,790 --> 00:49:41,880
in the night and we have this rocket

1235
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:43,800
technology and then we just flat lie

1236
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:46,290
of our transportation speeds so

1237
00:49:51,110 --> 00:49:49,770
logically the next the thing to me is I

1238
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:51,120
look at that curve as I say okay

1239
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:53,040
obviously we must have discovered the

1240
00:49:58,070 --> 00:49:55,920
next thing beyond rockets it's all being

1241
00:50:03,320 --> 00:49:58,080
kept secret it's all being used just by

1242
00:50:05,060 --> 00:50:03,330
those that are in charge and right that

1243
00:50:08,270 --> 00:50:05,070
brings that brings up that that very

1244
00:50:09,950 --> 00:50:08,280
enigmatic quote that we get from from

1245
00:50:13,250 --> 00:50:09,960
Ben rich who was a longtime head of the

1246
00:50:15,770 --> 00:50:13,260
skunk works out of Palmdale in that

1247
00:50:18,830 --> 00:50:15,780
quote was we have the technology to take

1248
00:50:20,540 --> 00:50:18,840
e.t home and everything that you've seen

1249
00:50:23,570 --> 00:50:20,550
out there on Star Trek and stuff is

1250
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:23,580
already a reality it was a story this

1251
00:50:28,820 --> 00:50:25,890
week by the way that they appear to be

1252
00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:28,830
making more progress towards finding out

1253
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:31,910
what's going on with regard to

1254
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:35,010
developing a warp drive that may be yeah

1255
00:50:40,310 --> 00:50:37,920
I know that you heard about that I saw

1256
00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:40,320
that in it and it's so what they really

1257
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:41,640
said in the articles which was I'm a

1258
00:50:45,050 --> 00:50:42,930
pretty interesting is that it's really

1259
00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:45,060
only a question of power it's a question

1260
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:47,400
of can you get the power source to

1261
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:49,050
actually do this with the proper power

1262
00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:51,510
source you can you can create this sort

1263
00:50:56,210 --> 00:50:53,910
of toroidal shaped spacecraft that can

1264
00:50:58,190 --> 00:50:56,220
actually you know create a get some kind

1265
00:51:01,640 --> 00:50:58,200
of gravity well and warp and Bend space

1266
00:51:03,230 --> 00:51:01,650
and and appear to move faster than

1267
00:51:05,060 --> 00:51:03,240
either in actuality at this alarm even

1268
00:51:06,890 --> 00:51:05,070
faster than light and there's lots of

1269
00:51:10,010 --> 00:51:06,900
experiments things I talked about in the

1270
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:10,020
choice that where we have had objects

1271
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:12,090
move back to the life so the whole idea

1272
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:13,650
that you can't go past the night kind of

1273
00:51:17,660 --> 00:51:15,660
a myth anyway I'll tell them again more

1274
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:17,670
of this stuff coming up we have Mike

1275
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:19,650
Berra the book is ancient aliens on the

1276
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:21,090
moon the current book but we've covered

1277
00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:23,970
a lot more and right now we're going

1278
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:26,910
into warp drive warp 12 Chris with Jean

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here's Jane Steinberg but I think warp

1337
00:54:18,650 --> 00:54:14,819
12 is actually faster than the Star Trek

1338
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:18,660
universe allows so really 12 or 10 yeah

1339
00:54:22,970 --> 00:54:21,210
I think what time is where the ship

1340
00:54:24,829 --> 00:54:22,980
starts breaking apart if you want the

1341
00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:24,839
ship to start breaking apart it's really

1342
00:54:28,250 --> 00:54:26,190
you're starting a warp 10 you don't get

1343
00:54:30,890 --> 00:54:28,260
any faster unless you get transwarp

1344
00:54:32,780 --> 00:54:30,900
Drive that's well 8 they actually went

1345
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:32,790
to war 14 in the original Star Cara

1346
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:34,770
cactus and aliens made modifications in

1347
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:35,970
the ship and I always always thinking to

1348
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:37,680
myself well how can they never kept

1349
00:54:41,299 --> 00:54:40,079
those modifications tactical Birds see

1350
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:41,309
nothing that episode was always they

1351
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:43,170
never what worked for Kate again so well

1352
00:54:45,859 --> 00:54:44,400
there you go you know they forget from

1353
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:45,869
one episode to the next Mike Barrow

1354
00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:49,290
joining us exploring Mars moon space

1355
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:50,910
mysteries with Gina and Chris on the

1356
00:54:55,130 --> 00:54:52,530
power cast and we're trying to look at

1357
00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:55,140
the possible existence of a secret space

1358
00:54:58,910 --> 00:54:56,730
program where they're doing things where

1359
00:54:59,660 --> 00:54:58,920
they're going where no human has gone

1360
00:55:01,700 --> 00:54:59,670
before

1361
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:01,710
but none of this gets to the public

1362
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:03,530
wouldn't you think though that

1363
00:55:08,829 --> 00:55:06,569
politically speaking the administration

1364
00:55:11,660 --> 00:55:08,839
would want to say hey we are a lot more

1365
00:55:13,549 --> 00:55:11,670
advanced in space technology then you

1366
00:55:15,049 --> 00:55:13,559
know about doesn't that make us look

1367
00:55:16,819 --> 00:55:15,059
good why keep it a secret

1368
00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:16,829
well there's probably lots of reasons to

1369
00:55:20,990 --> 00:55:18,390
keep it a secret for one thing it

1370
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:21,000
essentially the core of all this at the

1371
00:55:26,660 --> 00:55:24,569
core that is unlimited energy if you

1372
00:55:29,150 --> 00:55:26,670
have unlimited energy and it costs you

1373
00:55:31,450 --> 00:55:29,160
nothing to create anything therefore you

1374
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:31,460
have no economy in other words the

1375
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:33,569
current economy the current economic

1376
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:35,250
system where there's people some people

1377
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:37,410
at the top a lot of people in the middle

1378
00:55:42,530 --> 00:55:40,410
and and a sizable chunk of people at the

1379
00:55:44,539 --> 00:55:42,540
bottom that all goes away so the power

1380
00:55:47,450 --> 00:55:44,549
structures throw away these people's

1381
00:55:48,530 --> 00:55:47,460
position of privilege goes away and you

1382
00:55:50,329 --> 00:55:48,540
know I think that's one of the reasons

1383
00:55:52,670 --> 00:55:50,339
why Tesla was suppressed back in the

1384
00:55:55,130 --> 00:55:52,680
early nineteen or 20th century is

1385
00:55:56,780 --> 00:55:55,140
because what he was planning to do was

1386
00:55:58,609 --> 00:55:56,790
give free energy to everybody well force

1387
00:56:00,680 --> 00:55:58,619
Energy's free you can't charge for it if

1388
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,690
you can't charge for it then it cost

1389
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:02,160
nothing to make anything and therefore

1390
00:56:06,260 --> 00:56:03,839
everything is free and it's not really a

1391
00:56:08,450 --> 00:56:06,270
world that I think the powers that be

1392
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:08,460
want to live in I think they must prefer

1393
00:56:14,060 --> 00:56:08,730
their

1394
00:56:17,150 --> 00:56:14,070
and it's all defined by money okay but I

1395
00:56:20,330 --> 00:56:17,160
am also here do we even assume if there

1396
00:56:22,970 --> 00:56:20,340
is a secret space program would the

1397
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:22,980
President or the Congress know about it

1398
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:25,200
or is this something that basically they

1399
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,510
don't have the need to know that is an

1400
00:56:31,730 --> 00:56:29,280
interesting question to which I don't

1401
00:56:33,530 --> 00:56:31,740
have a really good answer because I

1402
00:56:34,730 --> 00:56:33,540
don't know and I haven't directly heard

1403
00:56:36,290 --> 00:56:34,740
that it's just one of those things

1404
00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:36,300
that's completely off the books off the

1405
00:56:40,970 --> 00:56:38,910
budgets has it been done completely in

1406
00:56:43,490 --> 00:56:40,980
secret to the point where presidents

1407
00:56:45,770 --> 00:56:43,500
aren't even informed of it for 50 years

1408
00:56:47,660 --> 00:56:45,780
I don't know that I definitely heard

1409
00:56:49,220 --> 00:56:47,670
that I think it makes a certain amount

1410
00:56:51,020 --> 00:56:49,230
of sense you know the thing to

1411
00:56:53,540 --> 00:56:51,030
understand that the United States

1412
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:53,550
essentially is a corporation and the

1413
00:56:57,470 --> 00:56:55,650
current president is only the president

1414
00:56:59,810 --> 00:56:57,480
of the corporation that in the United

1415
00:57:01,310 --> 00:56:59,820
States it is not you can make an

1416
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:01,320
argument that there is this whole

1417
00:57:06,380 --> 00:57:03,510
separate republic and it's just out

1418
00:57:08,690 --> 00:57:06,390
there that's above and a shell around

1419
00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:08,700
the democracy and the democracy is sort

1420
00:57:12,590 --> 00:57:10,110
of a separate corporate entity that's

1421
00:57:15,530 --> 00:57:12,600
below that so in that sense these people

1422
00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:15,540
you know if they had this technology had

1423
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:18,510
this sort of Wonderworld technology they

1424
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:20,850
probably wouldn't include guys like

1425
00:57:24,140 --> 00:57:22,650
Barack Obama that makes a certain amount

1426
00:57:26,030 --> 00:57:24,150
of sense to me you know I don't know I

1427
00:57:28,070 --> 00:57:26,040
can't give you a solid answer I think we

1428
00:57:29,570 --> 00:57:28,080
were just purely speculating that's one

1429
00:57:31,970 --> 00:57:29,580
you should talk to people like Andrew

1430
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:31,980
basiago about because I don't know yet

1431
00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:34,530
well rich Dolan is has been touting uh

1432
00:57:40,910 --> 00:57:37,710
his idea of a breakaway civilization

1433
00:57:43,070 --> 00:57:40,920
that has been slowly separating itself

1434
00:57:46,610 --> 00:57:43,080
from the great unwashed masses in us

1435
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:46,620
mere mortals and there is I think there

1436
00:57:51,110 --> 00:57:49,890
is some pretty tantalizing hints here

1437
00:57:53,780 --> 00:57:51,120
and there that would suggest that that

1438
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:53,790
may be the case but but it seems to me

1439
00:57:58,490 --> 00:57:56,400
that you know if we're having to do

1440
00:58:01,760 --> 00:57:58,500
simple things like refurbish the space

1441
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:01,770
station my mind you know by hiring the

1442
00:58:06,110 --> 00:58:04,110
Russians to do refurbishing flights and

1443
00:58:07,790 --> 00:58:06,120
that sort of thing we supply flights it

1444
00:58:10,010 --> 00:58:07,800
would seem to me that at least they

1445
00:58:11,660 --> 00:58:10,020
would keep the semblance of some sort of

1446
00:58:14,060 --> 00:58:11,670
man program intact

1447
00:58:17,420 --> 00:58:14,070
rather than just you know cut it off at

1448
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:17,430
the knees and and just have nothing we

1449
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:18,960
we don't really have a manned space

1450
00:58:21,740 --> 00:58:19,770
program anymore

1451
00:58:22,430 --> 00:58:21,750
and to me there's there's something

1452
00:58:24,349 --> 00:58:22,440
strange

1453
00:58:26,059 --> 00:58:24,359
about that what do you think that what

1454
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:26,069
do you think of the current mission

1455
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:28,650
statement of NASA or lack of one well

1456
00:58:33,890 --> 00:58:31,290
it's pretty disheartening you know as

1457
00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:33,900
somebody who grew up loving space

1458
00:58:38,030 --> 00:58:36,390
exploration and not really ever trusting

1459
00:58:39,859 --> 00:58:38,040
NASA but loving space and space

1460
00:58:43,069 --> 00:58:39,869
exploration you know say not try reading

1461
00:58:44,930 --> 00:58:43,079
NASA how so well you know even there's a

1462
00:58:46,130 --> 00:58:44,940
little kid watching the missions I

1463
00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:46,140
always felt like there was stuff that

1464
00:58:50,059 --> 00:58:47,520
they weren't telling us and stuff that

1465
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:50,069
they weren't showing us and I can think

1466
00:58:54,050 --> 00:58:51,690
of a couple of incidents as I remember

1467
00:58:55,849 --> 00:58:54,060
specifically sitting on my living room

1468
00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:55,859
floor with an earring watching Neil

1469
00:59:01,280 --> 00:58:58,650
Armstrong take those shadowy grainy you

1470
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:01,290
know first steps on the moon and I

1471
00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:02,970
remember asking my dad who was an

1472
00:59:09,230 --> 00:59:05,910
engineer at Boeing you know dad how come

1473
00:59:10,190 --> 00:59:09,240
if we've got a color TV how come they

1474
00:59:12,530 --> 00:59:10,200
only have a really crappy

1475
00:59:15,410 --> 00:59:12,540
black-and-white camera on the moon and

1476
00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:15,420
he said well I don't know because TV

1477
00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:17,369
signals would get from here to there

1478
00:59:21,710 --> 00:59:19,710
just fine he didn't understand it and I

1479
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:21,720
didn't understand it and you know they

1480
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:23,609
have that issue that you're an engineer

1481
00:59:28,579 --> 00:59:25,530
and you would understand this it may

1482
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:28,589
have been an issue of the bandwidth they

1483
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:30,000
didn't have the equipment with the

1484
00:59:34,220 --> 00:59:32,130
bandwidth to bridge actually a color

1485
00:59:35,930 --> 00:59:34,230
image it wasn't yeah actually it wasn't

1486
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:35,940
we looked into this and dark mission

1487
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:38,250
they had a color camera they were

1488
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:40,170
ordered to leave it they had a very

1489
00:59:45,140 --> 00:59:42,930
advanced very high quality color camera

1490
00:59:46,339 --> 00:59:45,150
on the space on Apollo 11

1491
00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:46,349
they were ordered to leave in the

1492
00:59:49,490 --> 00:59:47,849
command module they were not allowed to

1493
00:59:51,950 --> 00:59:49,500
take to the surface of the Moon there

1494
00:59:54,349 --> 00:59:51,960
were protests by scientists within NASA

1495
00:59:56,660 --> 00:59:54,359
and within the scientific community why

1496
00:59:57,859 --> 00:59:56,670
are we I'd have one columbaria quoted

1497
00:59:59,450 --> 00:59:57,869
said why are we you know

1498
01:00:01,010 --> 00:59:59,460
photographing man's first visit to

1499
01:00:03,130 --> 01:00:01,020
another world when such a stingy manner

1500
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:03,140
why aren't we using the most advanced

1501
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:05,730
color camera stuff we have and the

1502
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:07,770
reason for that was that they were they

1503
01:00:10,670 --> 01:00:09,450
weren't sure whether we'd be able to see

1504
01:00:12,349 --> 01:00:10,680
anything they weren't supposed to see

1505
01:00:14,420 --> 01:00:12,359
and they were very concerned in fact

1506
01:00:15,710 --> 01:00:14,430
they actually degraded the image it was

1507
01:00:17,900 --> 01:00:15,720
we now know actually sort of

1508
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:17,910
deliberately down standing image to make

1509
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:20,400
it even worse than it was so no in the

1510
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:22,170
beginning I didn't really ever trust a

1511
01:00:25,700 --> 01:00:24,450
lot of things about NASA and there's a

1512
01:00:27,859 --> 01:00:25,710
lot of things that seems a little bit

1513
01:00:30,859 --> 01:00:27,869
weird even to a little kid at the time

1514
01:00:32,839 --> 01:00:30,869
and and you know the thing is in terms

1515
01:00:35,089 --> 01:00:32,849
of their space program today I can't

1516
01:00:36,349 --> 01:00:35,099
make any sense of it except in a sort of

1517
01:00:38,210 --> 01:00:36,359
traditional non

1518
01:00:39,890 --> 01:00:38,220
territorial political sense which is

1519
01:00:41,539 --> 01:00:39,900
that Barack Obama the liberal and

1520
01:00:43,460 --> 01:00:41,549
liberals have never supported the space

1521
01:00:45,410 --> 01:00:43,470
program I'm Walter Mondale tried to kill

1522
01:00:47,359 --> 01:00:45,420
the space shuttle they always want to

1523
01:00:49,759 --> 01:00:47,369
spend money on something it's cost

1524
01:00:51,380 --> 01:00:49,769
thousands of Engineers their jobs you

1525
01:00:52,759 --> 01:00:51,390
know one of the best stimuluses I could

1526
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:52,769
think of in the last four years they

1527
01:00:57,380 --> 01:00:54,720
could have done would be to accelerate

1528
01:01:00,170 --> 01:00:57,390
all of the satellite yes but you're also

1529
01:01:03,289 --> 01:01:00,180
a kind of a contrary thing because John

1530
01:01:05,239 --> 01:01:03,299
Kennedy the suppose famous liberal was

1531
01:01:07,519 --> 01:01:05,249
the one who proposed the program

1532
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:07,529
descendants of the moon before 1970 or

1533
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:10,799
by 1970 also the Liberals would want to

1534
01:01:15,229 --> 01:01:12,690
have government programs to develop

1535
01:01:17,059 --> 01:01:15,239
scientific and infrastructure projects

1536
01:01:18,769 --> 01:01:17,069
because that's part of their meme that

1537
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:18,779
they want the government to help boost

1538
01:01:27,710 --> 01:01:25,609
to you about John Kennedy being a

1539
01:01:30,380 --> 01:01:27,720
liberal a few weeks he was you know a

1540
01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:30,390
candidate today he'd be considered very

1541
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:32,249
conservative he'd be said definitely be

1542
01:01:35,059 --> 01:01:33,690
a republic any definitely because

1543
01:01:37,309 --> 01:01:35,069
they're conservative he believed in

1544
01:01:39,289 --> 01:01:37,319
strong national defense he believed in

1545
01:01:41,630 --> 01:01:39,299
tax cuts he believed in basically all

1546
01:01:42,979 --> 01:01:41,640
the pieces so for economics so I don't

1547
01:01:44,569 --> 01:01:42,989
think he'd be considered a liberal today

1548
01:01:46,819 --> 01:01:44,579
and he wasn't really very liberal on

1549
01:01:49,069 --> 01:01:46,829
social issues until events sort of

1550
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:49,079
overtook him another important thing to

1551
01:01:54,229 --> 01:01:52,170
remember but having said that yeah you

1552
01:01:56,420 --> 01:01:54,239
could make that argument that logically

1553
01:01:58,069 --> 01:01:56,430
the liberal ideology would want to

1554
01:02:00,739 --> 01:01:58,079
pursue this or government control and

1555
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:00,749
invent technology but you know they

1556
01:02:04,729 --> 01:02:02,730
don't typically operate it in that way

1557
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:04,739
they're always looking for ways to cut

1558
01:02:09,140 --> 01:02:07,410
the budget in order to get both at least

1559
01:02:10,759 --> 01:02:09,150
from my perspective and I don't I just

1560
01:02:13,339 --> 01:02:10,769
don't think I don't think there's all

1561
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:13,349
that many votes for Democrats in the in

1562
01:02:17,269 --> 01:02:15,119
the engineering field engineers tend to

1563
01:02:18,410 --> 01:02:17,279
be more conservative so I think that you

1564
01:02:19,999 --> 01:02:18,420
know when they're looking at projects

1565
01:02:21,229 --> 01:02:20,009
like that it's like bullets take the

1566
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:21,239
money away from there and they'll spend

1567
01:02:24,229 --> 01:02:23,130
it on I don't know food stamps or

1568
01:02:27,049 --> 01:02:24,239
something else they think you're gonna

1569
01:02:28,759 --> 01:02:27,059
get a vote somewhere else maybe so if we

1570
01:02:30,890 --> 01:02:28,769
look at the republican-controlled

1571
01:02:32,989 --> 01:02:30,900
Congress I don't see too many

1572
01:02:34,999 --> 01:02:32,999
congressmen pushing for expanded space

1573
01:02:37,489 --> 01:02:35,009
program and in looking at the various

1574
01:02:39,229 --> 01:02:37,499
candidates for president on the

1575
01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:39,239
Republican side including Romney

1576
01:02:42,650 --> 01:02:41,369
some stuffs mentioned about NASA but not

1577
01:02:44,509 --> 01:02:42,660
very much it doesn't seem to be

1578
01:02:46,999 --> 01:02:44,519
politically correct whichever party

1579
01:02:48,049 --> 01:02:47,009
you're on yeah it is heartening it's one

1580
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:48,059
of these things that they bring up in

1581
01:02:49,989 --> 01:02:49,440
Florida when they want to get you know

1582
01:02:52,179 --> 01:02:49,999
they want to get

1583
01:02:54,759 --> 01:02:52,189
horrible but I sincerely do hope that we

1584
01:02:56,199 --> 01:02:54,769
go back to a manned space program with

1585
01:02:58,059 --> 01:02:56,209
the next administration I mean I really

1586
01:03:00,579 --> 01:02:58,069
think we should be pushing forward I

1587
01:03:03,309 --> 01:03:00,589
really like the direct two concepts

1588
01:03:05,139 --> 01:03:03,319
which was a project where they were they

1589
01:03:07,779 --> 01:03:05,149
were essentially going to take the old

1590
01:03:10,419 --> 01:03:07,789
space shuttle stuff and put engines on

1591
01:03:12,939 --> 01:03:10,429
the bottom of the tank and put like an

1592
01:03:14,019 --> 01:03:12,949
Apollo capsule on top and maybe go to

1593
01:03:15,249 --> 01:03:14,029
the moon that way and would have been

1594
01:03:17,439 --> 01:03:15,259
cheap and efficient and we've already

1595
01:03:19,149 --> 01:03:17,449
developed all the technology and all of

1596
01:03:21,999 --> 01:03:19,159
this stuff is it's been completely nob

1597
01:03:24,459 --> 01:03:22,009
so I'm with you I think we should have a

1598
01:03:25,899 --> 01:03:24,469
manned space program I think I would

1599
01:03:27,849 --> 01:03:25,909
like to feel a lot of reforms of NASA

1600
01:03:29,229 --> 01:03:27,859
and I don't really understand why it's

1601
01:03:30,999 --> 01:03:29,239
not going forward because I do think

1602
01:03:32,679 --> 01:03:31,009
it's a good thing for our country we'll

1603
01:03:35,139 --> 01:03:32,689
get into more event whether we should

1604
01:03:36,519 --> 01:03:35,149
have a better space program or if we

1605
01:03:38,769 --> 01:03:36,529
already have the secret space program

1606
01:03:40,509 --> 01:03:38,779
make more of it public who knows we have

1607
01:03:49,269 --> 01:03:40,519
mike barrow joining us with Jean and

1608
01:03:51,369 --> 01:03:49,279
Chris you're in the para cast hey

1609
01:03:54,609 --> 01:03:51,379
neighbors you've seen all those crazy

1610
01:03:56,979 --> 01:03:54,619
wacky products on TV the perfect

1611
01:04:00,909 --> 01:03:56,989
tortilla easy covers hot booties

1612
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:00,919
furniture fix petty spin and more where

1613
01:04:06,129 --> 01:04:03,169
do you find all that stuff you go to as

1614
01:04:08,889 --> 01:04:06,139
seen on TV calm because this is the

1615
01:04:11,229 --> 01:04:08,899
one-stop source for all of these TV

1616
01:04:14,649 --> 01:04:11,239
goods advertised find all your favorites

1617
01:04:18,699 --> 01:04:14,659
is seen on TV check them out as seen on

1618
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moon and NASA mysteries with Jean and

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Chris and the power cast what about the

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rumors that the moon landings were all

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staged in studios here on earth and the

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real stuff is going on all behind the

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scenes well I do cover that in ancient

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aliens on the moon and there's a whole

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chapter on that and I am my position and

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that they didn't take anything that they

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went to the moon one of the best quotes

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they ever heard was Charlie Duke who was

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actually the guy who remember the famous

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Apollo 11 landing sequence he's the

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Mission Control the voice of Mission

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Control Act Charlie Duke and he later

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went to the moon himself and he says

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look you know if we were gonna fake it

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ain't going to the moon we went there

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nine times why would we make it nine

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times

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it doesn't make any sense if you look at

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the arguments that it was all faked I

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think they all just really are very

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shallow and they fall apart very quickly

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I go through a lot of them I don't feel

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too much with the the newer stuff that

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people like Jay Widener come up with

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because I don't think I don't really

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think they hold up very well either but

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I just really haven't seen any evidence

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if that's the case I think in most of

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stuff that I've looked at dig into the

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arguments and really aren't very logical

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and they really they know

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the other thing I do not understand is

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if we have this very advanced technology

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would it still not make sense maybe not

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to release all of it but release a

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little bit of it you know throw us a few

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bones here say okay

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here's another way of getting to the

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moon show a little advancement not

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completely backtracking well it might

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but you know again you're saying to

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yourself okay you're not some

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perspective where you're saying gosh the

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people in charge are benevolent and they

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want the best for us now you know what I

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hear the rumors well I don't know if

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they want the best for us they want the

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best for themselves wouldn't that help

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them right well how how does that help

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them letting people know I mean think

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about it like this one of the biggest

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cash houses out there right now and the

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medical industry is cancer treatment

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there's no money in a cure for cancer

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all the money is in the treatment of

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cancer so it's really in you know

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everybody's best interests including the

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insurance companies and doctors and the

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hospitals and whole medical industry in

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the research industry to not have a cure

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for cancer and we really shouldn't you

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know as a government we shouldn't be

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paying anything for cancer research or

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for treating them what we should be

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paying for is cures you know we should

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put aside fifty billion dollars here the

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first company that comes up with a cure

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for a specific form of cancer that's

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100% effective you get fifty billion

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dollars and go at it guys I think if we

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did that we'd have cures so again you

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know you hear things you the people in

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the Tesla Society say that there was a

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time when there was different frequency

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sound waves were used to cure cancer in

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the 30s but these technologies always

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end up getting lost or they get taken

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underground and they're only for the

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elites and again I think that I just

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don't see any motivation by these people

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to release to society especially if it's

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going to significantly affect the the

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way society is and structured to this

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point and I mean think about it if

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people did people got a guy something

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and if they didn't die anymore you know

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if most of the diseases were cured the

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population of the planet would go out of

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control and we know from stuff like the

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Georgia Guidestones if there's

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definitely a segment of society in the

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upper echelon that thinks the planets

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already overpopulated and then that's

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kind of a lack all right so we have here

1805
01:11:33,860 --> 01:11:33,010
another conspiracy theory that medical

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advances would be

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held back because you pulled me into

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that conspiracy well I mean it kind of

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fell into it from the sake of bringing

1810
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advanced technology public and therefore

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suddenly it's the medical industry that

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they're withholding the secrets of

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cancer treatment cure of heart disease

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because the drug companies make more

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money this way now I would have loved

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that my brother the late Wallace H

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Steinberg who was very prominent in the

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healthcare industry in the 70s and 80s

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01:12:05,420 --> 01:12:03,720
if he survived maybe he would have had

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01:12:07,940 --> 01:12:05,430
an interesting reaction because he was

1821
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part of a venture capital company that

1822
01:12:12,740 --> 01:12:11,340
financed advanced drug companies well

1823
01:12:15,380 --> 01:12:12,750
well let me give you let me give you an

1824
01:12:17,810 --> 01:12:15,390
example slightly off of medical but

1825
01:12:20,570 --> 01:12:17,820
there's that I had personal knowledge of

1826
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:20,580
because when my dad retired he was one

1827
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of the world's foremost experts on

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materials technology for aerospace he

1829
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had worked on on all of the different

1830
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materials technology and safety inspires

1831
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for aircraft basically with the idea

1832
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that if you're in a press of a

1833
01:12:39,500 --> 01:12:36,480
commercial airliner how do we make sure

1834
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:39,510
that your seat doesn't burn you alive or

1835
01:12:43,450 --> 01:12:40,770
how do we make sure the things don't

1836
01:12:46,250 --> 01:12:43,460
kill you and so after he retired he was

1837
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:46,260
invited into a venture capital operation

1838
01:12:53,300 --> 01:12:50,400
and it was basically a scientist who had

1839
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:53,310
invented a a fire retardant material

1840
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:55,050
that was completely non-toxic it was

1841
01:13:00,020 --> 01:12:57,810
water-based and you could coat anything

1842
01:13:01,250 --> 01:13:00,030
in it and it wouldn't burn my dad I

1843
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:01,260
remember him coming home and saying

1844
01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:04,770
Jesus Mike no today I saw that we took a

1845
01:13:09,050 --> 01:13:07,320
2,000 degree blowtorch to pajamas that

1846
01:13:12,830 --> 01:13:09,060
we treated in this stuff and it wouldn't

1847
01:13:14,300 --> 01:13:12,840
burn it wouldn't burn at all and the

1848
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:14,310
whole prophecy when it was about two

1849
01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:15,450
years my dad was president of the

1850
01:13:18,830 --> 01:13:16,800
company they ran through all the tests

1851
01:13:21,260 --> 01:13:18,840
all the experiments they got all the DNA

1852
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:21,270
and then the guy who owned it shut the

1853
01:13:26,090 --> 01:13:23,850
whole thing down completely cut it off

1854
01:13:28,430 --> 01:13:26,100
fire everybody and all disappeared and

1855
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:28,440
what I think this was was again

1856
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:31,440
it was a probably a public thing

1857
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:32,970
probably some sort of secret development

1858
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:35,130
of some secret material technology all

1859
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:36,930
done with trying to tackle it was bought

1860
01:13:40,670 --> 01:13:38,400
out by the government and it would maybe

1861
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:40,680
go away but the truth is nobody needs to

1862
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:43,440
be burned because all clothing every bit

1863
01:13:47,660 --> 01:13:44,970
of clothing could be manufactured from

1864
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:47,670
this stuff so there's no reason why

1865
01:13:50,689 --> 01:13:49,110
you know in a fire anything that's a

1866
01:13:52,669 --> 01:13:50,699
burn you can you could embed it in paint

1867
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:52,679
in the walls of buildings did not burn

1868
01:13:57,530 --> 01:13:55,770
the fires that we saw on 9/11 in two

1869
01:13:59,720 --> 01:13:57,540
twin towers would not have happened and

1870
01:14:01,790 --> 01:13:59,730
this was in 1982 this was developed I

1871
01:14:04,010 --> 01:14:01,800
mean my dad came home told me about the

1872
01:14:06,410 --> 01:14:04,020
past show me some of the tech data I was

1873
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:06,420
22 or so at the time you know he was

1874
01:14:11,090 --> 01:14:08,910
just amazed by this stuff that was

1875
01:14:14,570 --> 01:14:11,100
completely safe completely non-toxic and

1876
01:14:16,340 --> 01:14:14,580
it wouldn't burn sure nothing would burn

1877
01:14:18,169 --> 01:14:16,350
if it was coated with this stuff or soap

1878
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:18,179
I suppose we could go on with this

1879
01:14:23,380 --> 01:14:19,770
theory we can take it further and say

1880
01:14:25,700 --> 01:14:23,390
okay let's talk about free energy about

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miles a gallon that kind of thing I want

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to go back however to something closer

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to what we do back to the mysteries on

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Mars in the moon okay now say the face

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on Mars is genuine now I guess the

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theory about Mars today is that maybe

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somewhere in the past millions of years

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ago they had the climate for a more

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advanced form of life but as the planet

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age did lost its atmosphere

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so how old with these artifacts be well

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it depends on when they were built if

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they were built before or after the

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Cataclysm and it really I think that it

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could have been very recently like

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within a couple of million years or even

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crossing my fingers less than a million

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years ago that Mars experience whatever

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catastrophe destroyed all the life that

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is there destroy the civilization that

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was there because Mars shows all the

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evidence not really being a planet it's

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actually a moon of another planet that

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no longer exists dr. Tom van Flandern

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called the planet v or planet v it was

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it was sort of what he described what's

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now described as a super earth a very

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very large earth-like body and Mars in

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fact was orbiting this body when that

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planet exploded or was destroyed and

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that's pure speculation the basically

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the destruction of that planet Saturn

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Mars with you know millions of tons of

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degree from this violent explosion

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ripped away most of the atmosphere made

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it essentially unpalatable and all the

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water very quickly froze and it's really

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interesting because you know places like

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Sibel

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if you look at the infrared images in

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stramonium that we covered in dark

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mission and then I'm going to cover

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again an H Damian Lamar's next year

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there's evidence of a buried city

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underneath the ice there that planet was

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once covered in the water and very

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habitable and evidence of the Buried

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this is where I have to do the break

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because it is such a great cliffhanger

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evidence of a buried city on Mars I want

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to ask more about that mike barrow

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is there evidence of a buried ancient

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city on Mars and implicit on all that

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there are lots of other questions I'm

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going to ask Mike Berra his latest book

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is called ancient aliens on the moon but

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next year there's going to be ancient

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aliens on Mars you're in the power cast

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with Gene and Chris so Mike let's ask

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the question right here how do we know

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there is a buried city on Mars

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well back in early 2001 Mars Odyssey

2053
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2001 was sent to Mars orbit it got there

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successfully and it's hot on board and

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infrared camera and one of the things

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that Richard and I and other people were

2057
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very interested to see was what would

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this Venus infrared camera show us about

2059
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the cydonia region what would happen if

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once it started to take pictures of this

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because with infrared what you get is

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you get to know it's stuff underneath

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the ground is heated up during the day

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and then at night it glows afterwards

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with that heat for a while and this

2066
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kitty picked up by infrared cameras so

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you actually get some possible ground

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penetration of the subsurface below and

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portion of Mars or another planet and

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it's really very interesting stuff and

2071
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you can basically tell different

2072
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compositional elements from this but not

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necessarily what they are but you can

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tell what one material is different than

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another and back during this period we

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were very interested in this and the

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problem was we didn't really know very

2078
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much about how to process per mole

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infrared images so then this was a

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really interesting story it goes on for

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quite a while so what happened was is

2082
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this guy starts showing up on the old

2083
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enterprise mission Richard Hoagland

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website on his message board and he

2085
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starts questioning people and asking

2086
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them what they know about infrared

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imaging and he eventually connects with

2088
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a guy named Keith Blaney

2089
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who has mentioned know prominently and

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go ancient alien wrong million and dark

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mission and starts talking to keep and

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he quickly figures out the teeth is like

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the smartest guy here eventually when it

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comes time to we're putting a lot of

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political pressure through emails and

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letters and things like that on national

2097
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take a nighttime infrared image of the

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cydonia region or series of images

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because there's like nine different

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filters

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eventually they released the tempature

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he takes one looks at look at him God's

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a bunch of crappy but he doesn't

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download it and this guy whose nickname

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is bamm-bamm keeps after him and keeps

2106
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after mr. come on you got him a look at

2107
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it come on you got it we'll look at him

2108
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getting a look at it and so finally at

2109
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about 10:30 at night one night he goes

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in and he grabs this high-resolution

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Tiffany download it and later he starts

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to work on because he works on it

2113
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he eventually sees that below Cydonia

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underneath the things on Mars and the

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DMM pyramid in the city and all these

2116
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other objects are there there there is

2117
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this cityscape that comes out there's

2118
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this incredible series of streets and

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bridges and buildings and temples and

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Road that's incredible stuff that's all

2121
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over the place and it's really quite

2122
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funny and when we took a visual image

2123
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and overlay that on top of it it got

2124
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even more interesting because that's

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that's a technique you can use is called

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lumens layering to actually help

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everything become more clear and you can

2128
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see this vast cityscape the problem is

2129
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is that when we finally release our

2130
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findings and Richard was very suspicious

2131
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about this whole thing beforehand we

2132
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discovered that if you are to go if you

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go back and you download the image then

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it's not the same image in other words

2135
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every teeth got some real data and then

2136
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they replaced it with deer as knowing

2137
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filmed images that were not you couldn't

2138
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you could not repeat the work that Keith

2139
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had done with that new image there's no

2140
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way you could repeat it if you would not

2141
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get the same results and we figured out

2142
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that this was all a setup that they had

2143
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deliberately leaked the good stuff to

2144
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keep hoping that we would release it and

2145
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then they would say well I don't know

2146
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what you're talking about we you can't

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get that it you can't get that result

2148
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out of this you must have Photoshop the

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whole thing luckily we caught them at it

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before we actually did it and it turns

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out we went back and looked at the

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01:25:19,550 --> 01:25:16,199
Internet Archive ever I did and it turns

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01:25:21,740 --> 01:25:19,560
out that within an hour of Keith Laney

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01:25:24,620 --> 01:25:21,750
who had a static IP address

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meaning that he was on a cable modem and

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anybody could find out who he was they

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could say okay Keith lady just came in

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from this

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location and download The Descendants

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anybody who downloaded the after he

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downloaded the image within an hour they

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01:25:40,609 --> 01:25:38,459
replaced his version with their fake

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01:25:42,379 --> 01:25:40,619
doctored version well you could not get

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01:25:45,169 --> 01:25:42,389
the cityscape out of the image processor

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01:25:47,899 --> 01:25:45,179
so that was the big controversy of 2002

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01:25:50,060 --> 01:25:47,909
but again you know we stand by what what

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01:25:52,939 --> 01:25:50,070
the images show and they clearly show a

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01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:52,949
vast underground city which we

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01:25:57,739 --> 01:25:55,650
speculated buried below layer of ice we

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01:25:59,060 --> 01:25:57,749
think that in that area and probably in

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01:26:02,930 --> 01:25:59,070
the entire northern hemisphere of Mars

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01:26:04,910 --> 01:26:02,940
is mostly ice water that was frozen

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01:26:07,279 --> 01:26:04,920
after the catastrophe and everything

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01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:07,289
below that is just sort of frozen solid

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01:26:13,069 --> 01:26:09,209
and there's just a thin layer of dust on

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01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:13,079
top of it so the problem is it was

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01:26:17,930 --> 01:26:14,400
really interesting is that in order for

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01:26:19,719 --> 01:26:17,940
us to be able to see the images that we

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01:26:22,009 --> 01:26:19,729
saw it would have to have meant

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01:26:24,830 --> 01:26:22,019
essentially that what was underneath the

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01:26:26,989 --> 01:26:24,840
ice the world of the light pushed a lot

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01:26:28,910 --> 01:26:26,999
that there was power being generated

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01:26:30,529 --> 01:26:28,920
because the infrared penetration

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01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:30,539
shouldn't have been able to get that

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01:26:34,509 --> 01:26:32,249
deep if diva's we were seen we could

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01:26:38,959 --> 01:26:34,519
only see the incredible reflection back

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01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:38,969
if this buried city was so active or at

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01:26:42,620 --> 01:26:41,130
least still had power so that was

2189
01:26:44,779 --> 01:26:42,630
something that was really stunning thing

2190
01:26:46,339 --> 01:26:44,789
in warming dark mission but a cover it

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01:26:49,009 --> 01:26:46,349
again and give some more details on and

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01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:49,019
in the next book but that that's buried

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01:26:54,259 --> 01:26:51,449
city on Mars it was really quite a story

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01:26:56,029 --> 01:26:54,269
and it was really funny because it

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01:26:58,370 --> 01:26:56,039
turned out that the guy in the side bomb

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01:27:03,080 --> 01:26:58,380
who was in there turned out to be the

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01:27:05,180 --> 01:27:03,090
assistant and the webmaster or a guy dr.

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01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:05,190
Philip Christensen who was in charge of

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01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:07,440
the theme of infrared cameras it's

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01:27:14,509 --> 01:27:11,690
literally a thousand hours on Richards

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01:27:16,939 --> 01:27:14,519
website on message board trying to find

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01:27:18,859 --> 01:27:16,949
somebody but it's really interesting

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01:27:20,449 --> 01:27:18,869
that's that's all news to me that's

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01:27:23,859 --> 01:27:20,459
something I think our listeners are

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01:27:26,089 --> 01:27:23,869
really going to have a fun time yeah

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01:27:27,620 --> 01:27:26,099
dark mission and it's on the enterprise

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01:27:29,060 --> 01:27:27,630
mission website and it's in darkness and

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01:27:31,239 --> 01:27:29,070
also and it's going to be in the next

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01:27:34,370 --> 01:27:31,249
book well I have a question for we had

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01:27:37,129 --> 01:27:34,380
we've had dr. John Brandenburg on the

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01:27:41,060 --> 01:27:37,139
program and last year he came up with a

2212
01:27:42,670 --> 01:27:41,070
very intriguing observation that we

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01:27:45,850 --> 01:27:42,680
roughly stated he

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01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:45,860
at about 180 million years ago some sort

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01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:48,970
of planet shattering possibly a natural

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01:27:53,470 --> 01:27:52,130
occurrence happen which was some sort of

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01:27:56,770 --> 01:27:53,480
nuclear reaction occurred in the

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01:28:02,230 --> 01:27:56,780
northern hemisphere around the Mahr acid

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01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:02,240
I some of the well he claims that

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01:28:07,570 --> 01:28:04,850
there's a thin layer of radioactivity

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01:28:10,750 --> 01:28:07,580
can be found all over Mars and there's a

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01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:10,760
hotspot in that particular region and he

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01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:12,530
said it would take the equivalent of 1

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01:28:18,490 --> 01:28:15,610
million one Megaton hydrogen bombs to to

2225
01:28:20,410 --> 01:28:18,500
you know lay down the concentration of

2226
01:28:22,210 --> 01:28:20,420
radioactivity there have you looked into

2227
01:28:23,980 --> 01:28:22,220
this claim and are you familiar with

2228
01:28:25,990 --> 01:28:23,990
this particular observation that his

2229
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:26,000
yeah I'm familiar with it I don't think

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01:28:29,820 --> 01:28:28,010
it's I don't think it's valid I think

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01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:29,830
that what you're actually those

2232
01:28:34,450 --> 01:28:31,730
explosions that you're talking about

2233
01:28:37,540 --> 01:28:34,460
that's the impact of the debris from

2234
01:28:41,770 --> 01:28:37,550
this planet hitting Mars over and over

2235
01:28:43,630 --> 01:28:41,780
and over and over again and and and

2236
01:28:45,250 --> 01:28:43,640
again it's going to be radioactive

2237
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:45,260
because you know there are heavy

2238
01:28:50,380 --> 01:28:47,930
radioactive elements and planetary cores

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01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:50,390
and in in planetary Mantle's you're

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01:28:53,590 --> 01:28:51,920
going to get a lot of uranium a lot of

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01:28:56,860 --> 01:28:53,600
things like that so I think what he's

2242
01:28:59,440 --> 01:28:56,870
really looking at it's sort of a

2243
01:29:02,140 --> 01:28:59,450
variation of dr. Van Flandern steam

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01:29:03,610 --> 01:29:02,150
which is but Mars with you know actually

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01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:03,620
damaged in the destruction of its other

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01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:06,170
planets that's where that comes from in

2247
01:29:11,620 --> 01:29:09,040
my opinion well so uranium thorium

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01:29:15,850 --> 01:29:11,630
radioactive all this could be released

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01:29:18,150 --> 01:29:15,860
by a you know Catholic impact it's if

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01:29:21,220 --> 01:29:18,160
for instance the moon was to explode

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01:29:21,970 --> 01:29:21,230
tomorrow and and you know shower the

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01:29:24,610 --> 01:29:21,980
earth with debris

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01:29:27,250 --> 01:29:24,620
it would certainly need layers of all

2254
01:29:29,230 --> 01:29:27,260
kinds of different materials all over

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01:29:32,050 --> 01:29:29,240
the surface of the earth and that would

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01:29:35,890 --> 01:29:32,060
include presumably radioactive elements

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01:29:37,540 --> 01:29:35,900
so you know again all you have to do is

2258
01:29:39,190 --> 01:29:37,550
have those radioactive elements present

2259
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:39,200
in the parent body and when the planet

2260
01:29:43,390 --> 01:29:41,570
gets bombarded when Mars gets bombarded

2261
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:43,400
by that then you did that accounts for

2262
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:47,450
at all so you know again I I think there

2263
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:48,530
are some people who want to say that

2264
01:29:51,970 --> 01:29:50,690
they found Mars has been neat and I you

2265
01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:51,980
know I think that kind of comes from

2266
01:29:56,649 --> 01:29:55,280
soma Brandenburg series and I gotta say

2267
01:29:58,419 --> 01:29:56,659
I think that's ridiculous

2268
01:29:59,979 --> 01:29:58,429
so in terms of dr. Dannenberg theory

2269
01:30:02,080 --> 01:29:59,989
it's like you know it's one of the other

2270
01:30:04,990 --> 01:30:02,090
but there's no doubt in my mind

2271
01:30:08,740 --> 01:30:05,000
whatsoever that Mars was once a moon of

2272
01:30:10,270 --> 01:30:08,750
a larger planet has two tidal bulges 180

2273
01:30:12,669 --> 01:30:10,280
degrees apart of them know for a fact

2274
01:30:15,399 --> 01:30:12,679
that any any object in the solar system

2275
01:30:17,410 --> 01:30:15,409
that has that solves condition was once

2276
01:30:19,689 --> 01:30:17,420
in a tidal lots orbital relationship

2277
01:30:21,669 --> 01:30:19,699
with a much larger body began to more of

2278
01:30:23,709 --> 01:30:21,679
these mysteries and get back to the moon

2279
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:23,719
we'll send everyone to the moon with

2280
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:25,730
Alice in a few moments Mike berry

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01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:27,530
joining us with Jean and Chris you're in

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hi this is Nick Pope you're listening to

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the parrot I should have played

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that recording to the moon Alice yeah we

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have mike barratt joining us with Gina

2397
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and Chris on the power cast exploring

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whether the supposed divesting of Mars

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from orbiting a planet no longer exists

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cause the radioactive levels another

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question that comes here to the legends

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of advanced civilizations would we think

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maybe if we look at those legends

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assuming it was real we had this larger

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or fatter

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earth planet in our solar system it

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spawned an advanced civilization when

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things turn bad

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they went to earth and leaving us

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legends of Atlantis etc what do you

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think well I think it's completely

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logical the question is no timing I mean

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the truth is that this what happened to

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01:35:48,929 --> 01:35:46,780
Mars probably happened a couple of

2415
01:35:50,909 --> 01:35:48,939
million years ago which really doesn't

2416
01:35:53,159 --> 01:35:50,919
you know it's not really ideal for the

2417
01:35:55,229 --> 01:35:53,169
placement of modern man at least in

2418
01:35:58,919 --> 01:35:55,239
terms of the fossil record so that's

2419
01:36:00,750 --> 01:35:58,929
that's hard for me to to necessarily put

2420
01:36:03,179 --> 01:36:00,760
you to put those two pieces together in

2421
01:36:05,069 --> 01:36:03,189
terms of the timeframe but we don't know

2422
01:36:06,569 --> 01:36:05,079
we don't really know how long it would

2423
01:36:10,109 --> 01:36:06,579
take for the solar system to calm down

2424
01:36:11,939 --> 01:36:10,119
after a catastrophic event like that it

2425
01:36:13,529 --> 01:36:11,949
could have been 65 million years ago it

2426
01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:13,539
could have been 2 million years ago it

2427
01:36:16,709 --> 01:36:14,320
could have been a couple hundred

2428
01:36:18,359 --> 01:36:16,719
thousand years ago although logically

2429
01:36:19,829 --> 01:36:18,369
there'd be a lot more debris around the

2430
01:36:21,209 --> 01:36:19,839
solar system that had happened just a

2431
01:36:23,609 --> 01:36:21,219
couple hundred thousand years ago but

2432
01:36:25,020 --> 01:36:23,619
you know again we don't know because

2433
01:36:29,310 --> 01:36:25,030
we've never really experienced anything

2434
01:36:32,099 --> 01:36:29,320
like this in human history so what I

2435
01:36:35,969 --> 01:36:32,109
think to me is more interesting you know

2436
01:36:39,540 --> 01:36:35,979
it's that the idea that there have been

2437
01:36:41,669 --> 01:36:39,550
advanced human civilizations before this

2438
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:41,679
one and my second book in the choice I

2439
01:36:46,290 --> 01:36:44,169
talked about some of the Hopi legends

2440
01:36:49,409 --> 01:36:46,300
there's been three previous worlds of

2441
01:36:50,729 --> 01:36:49,419
man that the last one was had

2442
01:36:52,409 --> 01:36:50,739
technologies that were even more

2443
01:36:54,149 --> 01:36:52,419
advanced than what we have today and

2444
01:36:56,399 --> 01:36:54,159
that's what the Hopi legends promise and

2445
01:36:59,459 --> 01:36:56,409
then you know you can ancient aliens on

2446
01:37:01,619 --> 01:36:59,469
the moon and look at these ruins and

2447
01:37:04,740 --> 01:37:01,629
these this building to the pier to be

2448
01:37:07,260 --> 01:37:04,750
there and everything there it doesn't

2449
01:37:08,850 --> 01:37:07,270
look very alien to me you know the

2450
01:37:10,440 --> 01:37:08,860
reason why I can believe in this and

2451
01:37:12,630 --> 01:37:10,450
relate to this stuff better look at

2452
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:12,640
these structures they all make sense to

2453
01:37:16,770 --> 01:37:14,290
me from a human engineering standpoint

2454
01:37:18,330 --> 01:37:16,780
it almost looks like even though there

2455
01:37:20,910 --> 01:37:18,340
are enormous and very highly advanced

2456
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:20,920
stuff it almost looks to me like it's

2457
01:37:26,490 --> 01:37:23,650
human technology and I wonder if there's

2458
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:26,500
a connection there with this previous

2459
01:37:30,330 --> 01:37:28,930
world of man's previous human

2460
01:37:32,850 --> 01:37:30,340
civilizations and lived here on earth

2461
01:37:35,310 --> 01:37:32,860
that was very advanced but maybe went to

2462
01:37:38,460 --> 01:37:35,320
Mars and went to the moon and built

2463
01:37:40,290 --> 01:37:38,470
these enormous basis and then the

2464
01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:40,300
Cataclysm or whatever it was destroyed

2465
01:37:44,910 --> 01:37:42,400
them and forced them to either live

2466
01:37:47,130 --> 01:37:44,920
underground on Mars or eventually come

2467
01:37:48,570 --> 01:37:47,140
to the earth or just completely wipe the

2468
01:37:50,460 --> 01:37:48,580
civilization out and we had to start all

2469
01:37:52,890 --> 01:37:50,470
over again so to me I'm kind of more

2470
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:52,900
interested in in the ancient the legends

2471
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:54,970
of the Ancients like the Hokies and what

2472
01:37:58,830 --> 01:37:57,130
what and when that third world of man

2473
01:38:01,020 --> 01:37:58,840
was and what was like and whether the

2474
01:38:02,370 --> 01:38:01,030
stuff that we're seeing on the moon

2475
01:38:05,370 --> 01:38:02,380
that's a fairly different maybe

2476
01:38:08,220 --> 01:38:05,380
necessarily alien but only alien in the

2477
01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:08,230
sense that it's from some other previous

2478
01:38:12,690 --> 01:38:10,960
earlier version of the human race you

2479
01:38:15,180 --> 01:38:12,700
know it's possible but when Neil

2480
01:38:18,630 --> 01:38:15,190
Armstrong said that's one small step for

2481
01:38:20,580 --> 01:38:18,640
man one giant leap for mankind they

2482
01:38:22,980 --> 01:38:20,590
actually meant that and he mean men and

2483
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:22,990
in the context that's one small step for

2484
01:38:28,860 --> 01:38:26,290
man this version of the human race but

2485
01:38:32,910 --> 01:38:28,870
it's a giant leap for all mankind this

2486
01:38:35,480 --> 01:38:32,920
this far greater related you know human

2487
01:38:38,010 --> 01:38:35,490
subspecies that maybe had been

2488
01:38:40,140 --> 01:38:38,020
inhabiting these parts around here for

2489
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:40,150
millions of years before so it's a giant

2490
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:42,610
leap for them they were returning the

2491
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:45,850
Stars but once we came you know bring up

2492
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:48,970
the Hopi Mike and that uh I want to just

2493
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:51,130
kind of add a little caveat to this here

2494
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:54,610
the Hopi also warned us that if we ever

2495
01:39:00,030 --> 01:38:56,890
do get to the moon not to bring anything

2496
01:39:03,930 --> 01:39:00,040
back and right do you dress that in in

2497
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:03,940
your new book yes I actually addressed

2498
01:39:07,770 --> 01:39:06,250
that more a little bit more in the

2499
01:39:10,590 --> 01:39:07,780
choice where I talk about that now that

2500
01:39:14,370 --> 01:39:10,600
particular prophecy is not one of

2501
01:39:16,050 --> 01:39:14,380
necessarily we acknowledge official hopi

2502
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:16,060
prophecies but it is an additional

2503
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:18,489
prophecy that I think was the probably

2504
01:39:25,229 --> 01:39:21,370
by an elder named white feather and

2505
01:39:26,850 --> 01:39:25,239
about 1960 and I have heard that and I'm

2506
01:39:29,010 --> 01:39:26,860
not saying it's not the correct problem

2507
01:39:31,550 --> 01:39:29,020
is saying it's not part of the canonical

2508
01:39:34,110 --> 01:39:31,560
Hopi prophecies as I understand it but

2509
01:39:36,060 --> 01:39:34,120
it wasn't a prophecy it was just a

2510
01:39:38,729 --> 01:39:36,070
warning that created warning

2511
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:38,739
yeah creator creator according to the

2512
01:39:43,890 --> 01:39:41,890
Hopi was very very strict and very

2513
01:39:46,110 --> 01:39:43,900
upfront about right

2514
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:46,120
mohnish but not to not to bring anything

2515
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:49,210
back from the moon and some Hopi even to

2516
01:39:53,850 --> 01:39:51,730
this day equate some of our you know are

2517
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:53,860
really vexing problems here in this

2518
01:39:58,590 --> 01:39:55,930
current 21st century as being a direct

2519
01:40:01,050 --> 01:39:58,600
result of bringing artifacts rocks and

2520
01:40:04,229 --> 01:40:01,060
other materials back from the moon yeah

2521
01:40:06,209 --> 01:40:04,239
and and so when ancient aliens on the

2522
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:06,219
moon is that there's a chapter in there

2523
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:08,770
about Apollo 17 and I think by the time

2524
01:40:12,510 --> 01:40:11,050
we got into the last lunar mission man

2525
01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:12,520
mission which was a policy and team I

2526
01:40:16,110 --> 01:40:14,560
think we'd reached a point where we were

2527
01:40:17,700 --> 01:40:16,120
just looking for stuff we were looking

2528
01:40:19,290 --> 01:40:17,710
for stuff to bring back and it's really

2529
01:40:21,930 --> 01:40:19,300
fascinating because as you go through

2530
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:21,940
the story you know what the astronaut

2531
01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:24,010
did when they were there they went to

2532
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:25,840
all these very intriguing places they

2533
01:40:32,370 --> 01:40:28,570
went to the base of a mountain called

2534
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:32,380
the South Nassif which actually was it's

2535
01:40:36,540 --> 01:40:34,480
actually hexagonal had exact you know

2536
01:40:38,700 --> 01:40:36,550
Mountain there's a v-shaped depression

2537
01:40:41,190 --> 01:40:38,710
or opening that seems to go underneath

2538
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:41,200
the things and they drove the rover

2539
01:40:46,650 --> 01:40:43,930
right up to the the bridge on top right

2540
01:40:49,709 --> 01:40:46,660
above that park the rover and then the

2541
01:40:52,170 --> 01:40:49,719
camera basically pans away for about 30

2542
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:52,180
minutes and doesn't show you either this

2543
01:40:57,180 --> 01:40:54,850
depression called nantan all the

2544
01:40:59,310 --> 01:40:57,190
astronauts for about 25 or 30 minutes

2545
01:41:00,990 --> 01:40:59,320
and we have no idea what they're doing

2546
01:41:02,940 --> 01:41:01,000
but there is some interesting

2547
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:02,950
transmissions where Cernan says Gene

2548
01:41:06,420 --> 01:41:04,570
Cernan says well we really haven't been

2549
01:41:08,850 --> 01:41:06,430
able to look look around any more than

2550
01:41:11,370 --> 01:41:08,860
you've seen so of course the answer is

2551
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:11,380
we haven't seen anything and there are

2552
01:41:16,050 --> 01:41:14,290
no pictures of this this what looks like

2553
01:41:17,820 --> 01:41:16,060
an entrance underneath this thing there

2554
01:41:21,420 --> 01:41:17,830
are no pictures of the inside of it at

2555
01:41:22,700 --> 01:41:21,430
all and they they did apparently stop

2556
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:22,710
and take some other pictures

2557
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:25,570
there's no photographs pointing into

2558
01:41:28,860 --> 01:41:26,800
this thing and then they went on to

2559
01:41:31,650 --> 01:41:28,870
another place an area called shorty

2560
01:41:32,279 --> 01:41:31,660
crater an inch shorty crater if you look

2561
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:32,289
at this

2562
01:41:36,540 --> 01:41:34,239
these panoramas this is where where

2563
01:41:39,060 --> 01:41:36,550
Richard found this thing that we call

2564
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:39,070
data's head and and if you look inside

2565
01:41:43,109 --> 01:41:40,690
the crater there's all kinds of stuff

2566
01:41:45,660 --> 01:41:43,119
that as I look at it I don't see rocks

2567
01:41:49,620 --> 01:41:45,670
I see mechanisms I see mechanisms as she

2568
01:41:52,350 --> 01:41:49,630
pumps I see mechanical debris and then

2569
01:41:55,979 --> 01:41:52,360
right in the mix of this is this thing

2570
01:41:57,660 --> 01:41:55,989
that looks like a head it first looks

2571
01:42:00,299 --> 01:41:57,670
like a human's head it's the same size

2572
01:42:02,069 --> 01:42:00,309
Museum in LA but as you zoom up on and

2573
01:42:03,930 --> 01:42:02,079
it looks more and more like like it's

2574
01:42:07,879 --> 01:42:03,940
mechanical it almost looks like c-3po

2575
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:07,889
and as you do color enhancement of this

2576
01:42:14,759 --> 01:42:10,690
you can see that it has a painted red

2577
01:42:16,500 --> 01:42:14,769
stripe on the upper lip and I swear god

2578
01:42:18,990 --> 01:42:16,510
that's what it looks like pictures been

2579
01:42:20,850 --> 01:42:19,000
out there for years in ancient aliens on

2580
01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:20,860
the moon we talked about this mission

2581
01:42:25,470 --> 01:42:22,719
and what we did what they did and the

2582
01:42:27,089 --> 01:42:25,480
reality is what if they brought stuff

2583
01:42:28,589 --> 01:42:27,099
like that back and wonder they could

2584
01:42:31,229 --> 01:42:28,599
have actually descended in this shorty

2585
01:42:33,419 --> 01:42:31,239
crater picked up data's head and brought

2586
01:42:34,830 --> 01:42:33,429
it back I don't know but what if it was

2587
01:42:36,810 --> 01:42:34,840
that what if it was some sort of

2588
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:36,820
mechanism what if it was the head of a

2589
01:42:41,879 --> 01:42:39,250
robot having something like that you

2590
01:42:44,700 --> 01:42:41,889
know a positronic brain if you want to

2591
01:42:46,290 --> 01:42:44,710
use a Star Trek term what kinds of

2592
01:42:49,620 --> 01:42:46,300
secrets would something like that hold

2593
01:42:52,799 --> 01:42:49,630
and if you were able to decode that

2594
01:42:54,689 --> 01:42:52,809
technology and put a good use the same

2595
01:42:56,009 --> 01:42:54,699
way we talked about or put it to some

2596
01:42:58,319 --> 01:42:56,019
use and when they talk about in

2597
01:43:00,899 --> 01:42:58,329
Terminator films and so forth what would

2598
01:43:04,319 --> 01:43:00,909
we have learned and would that knowledge

2599
01:43:06,689 --> 01:43:04,329
itself unbalance the planet in terms of

2600
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:06,699
power structures or the physics you know

2601
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:08,130
what I think brought this thing back

2602
01:43:15,450 --> 01:43:11,530
onto a power source and turned on we

2603
01:43:18,089 --> 01:43:15,460
don't know so right so putting hope you

2604
01:43:21,209 --> 01:43:18,099
the hopi warning into a really cool

2605
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:21,219
context maybe it wasn't yeah I mean I

2606
01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:22,719
could actually show you stuff but they

2607
01:43:25,529 --> 01:43:24,159
could have brought back they could have

2608
01:43:26,790 --> 01:43:25,539
brought back that would have been you

2609
01:43:29,310 --> 01:43:26,800
know they would have been able to get in

2610
01:43:31,919 --> 01:43:29,320
their bags and stuff but absolutely I

2611
01:43:36,020 --> 01:43:31,929
think my my engineers I is absolutely

2612
01:43:39,229 --> 01:43:36,030
technology it's absolutely not rocks so

2613
01:43:41,939 --> 01:43:39,239
you know that to me is an astonishing

2614
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:41,949
connection to that Hopi prophecy and I

2615
01:43:46,460 --> 01:43:44,050
can't disagree at all with that

2616
01:43:50,480 --> 01:43:46,470
particular prophecy or warning

2617
01:43:52,500 --> 01:43:50,490
in that context and certainly I've had

2618
01:43:54,780 --> 01:43:52,510
we're kind of going through a chaotic

2619
01:43:56,490 --> 01:43:54,790
period anyway before we went to them but

2620
01:43:58,440 --> 01:43:56,500
it seems like things have been even more

2621
01:43:59,760 --> 01:43:58,450
chaotic a pillars maybe we should go

2622
01:44:03,210 --> 01:43:59,770
back to the moon and stay there who

2623
01:44:06,420 --> 01:44:03,220
knows we should take everything back and

2624
01:44:07,950 --> 01:44:06,430
drop it back you know I have an

2625
01:44:09,570 --> 01:44:07,960
interesting question that arises if

2626
01:44:12,420 --> 01:44:09,580
there was an advanced ancient

2627
01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:12,430
civilization the ancient astronauts and

2628
01:44:17,820 --> 01:44:15,280
maybe they lived on the legendary fifth

2629
01:44:19,110 --> 01:44:17,830
planet before it was destroyed we wonder

2630
01:44:21,870 --> 01:44:19,120
where they could have gone maybe they

2631
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:21,880
coexist with us on earth because there

2632
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:23,890
is also the theory about crypto

2633
01:44:28,890 --> 01:44:26,650
terrestrials the late mac tony's wrote a

2634
01:44:30,690 --> 01:44:28,900
book and it's not an unusual theory it

2635
01:44:33,030 --> 01:44:30,700
goes back even to the days of Richard

2636
01:44:34,950 --> 01:44:33,040
shaver and his DeRose and heroes that we

2637
01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:34,960
have underground or in some hidden part

2638
01:44:37,950 --> 01:44:36,400
of our world and we haven't explored

2639
01:44:40,340 --> 01:44:37,960
every part of our planet no matter what

2640
01:44:42,990 --> 01:44:40,350
they wanted to believe there might be

2641
01:44:45,540 --> 01:44:43,000
another civilization and advanced

2642
01:44:47,970 --> 01:44:45,550
civilization maybe our governments know

2643
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:47,980
about it and protect them for reasons

2644
01:44:53,340 --> 01:44:51,010
best known to themselves and maybe they

2645
01:44:56,580 --> 01:44:53,350
send out their aircrafts every so often

2646
01:44:57,930 --> 01:44:56,590
and that aircraft is seen as UFOs maybe

2647
01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:57,940
there's interaction maybe we get

2648
01:45:03,720 --> 01:44:59,920
advanced technology from them some kind

2649
01:45:05,190 --> 01:45:03,730
of cross-pollination who knows a lot of

2650
01:45:07,410 --> 01:45:05,200
theories a lot of possibilities to

2651
01:45:10,710 --> 01:45:07,420
consider we're talking with Mike Berra

2652
01:45:12,300 --> 01:45:10,720
and the book is called ancient aliens on

2653
01:45:13,620 --> 01:45:12,310
the moon and right now I'm talking about

2654
01:45:16,950 --> 01:45:13,630
ancient aliens right here on earth

2655
01:45:19,890 --> 01:45:16,960
you're on with Gene and Kris because you

2656
01:45:27,310 --> 01:45:19,900
were in the para cast

2657
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:30,949
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2660
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2661
01:45:43,819 --> 01:45:41,760
Anderson if you'd like to listen to GCN

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2673
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2674
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2675
01:46:12,919 --> 01:46:10,889
Anderson have you ever wondered why

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banks stockbrokers investment advisors

2677
01:46:16,609 --> 01:46:14,519
won't talk about gold IRAs

2678
01:46:18,350 --> 01:46:16,619
they've been available since 1986 yet

2679
01:46:20,239 --> 01:46:18,360
the financial industry won't recognize

2680
01:46:22,189 --> 01:46:20,249
the value of gold for your attire mint

2681
01:46:23,719 --> 01:46:22,199
gold has outperformed paper investments

2682
01:46:25,370 --> 01:46:23,729
yet no word about IRAs

2683
01:46:49,910 --> 01:46:25,380
if you would like to have gold for your

2684
01:46:52,189 --> 01:46:49,920
retirement call 806-853-9949 only corn

2685
01:46:54,140 --> 01:46:52,199
or soy alfalfa fruits vegetables and

2686
01:46:56,540 --> 01:46:54,150
wheat are all impacted raising prices

2687
01:46:58,100 --> 01:46:56,550
the cost to feed livestock is forcing

2688
01:46:59,989 --> 01:46:58,110
farmers and ranchers out of business

2689
01:47:02,029 --> 01:46:59,999
blowing up your food prices the only

2690
01:47:04,129 --> 01:47:02,039
strategy to counter this is to freeze

2691
01:47:06,049 --> 01:47:04,139
your food cost at today's prices by

2692
01:47:08,089 --> 01:47:06,059
getting your own supply of foods from e

2693
01:47:09,949 --> 01:47:08,099
foods direct now as the price of raw

2694
01:47:11,719 --> 01:47:09,959
ingredients increases be food z' we'll

2695
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:11,729
have to raise prices too now is the time

2696
01:47:15,350 --> 01:47:13,650
to get your supply I recently increased

2697
01:47:17,209 --> 01:47:15,360
my supply for me foods direct because

2698
01:47:19,219 --> 01:47:17,219
we've all known this was coming you know

2699
01:47:21,350 --> 01:47:19,229
about their delicious long-term storable

2700
01:47:23,089 --> 01:47:21,360
foods the fact is you can eat it anytime

2701
01:47:24,949 --> 01:47:23,099
to save money today and because it

2702
01:47:26,420 --> 01:47:24,959
stores for 25 years they're locking in

2703
01:47:29,480 --> 01:47:26,430
today's prices and avoiding the

2704
01:47:30,980 --> 01:47:29,490
food cost don't wait call 800 409 five

2705
01:47:33,980 --> 01:47:30,990
six three three or go to eat foods

2706
01:47:35,210 --> 01:47:33,990
tourette calm Ford / Alex all 800 or oh

2707
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:35,220
nine five six three three

2708
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:37,890
re foods to read calm for / Alex you can

2709
01:47:46,270 --> 01:47:40,290
bet your life on e foods direct

2710
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:50,000
welcome back to the para cast the gold

2711
01:48:02,240 --> 01:47:54,290
standard of paranormal radio and now

2712
01:48:03,770 --> 01:48:02,250
here's Jane Steinberg on the para cast

2713
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:03,780
with Gene and Chris the final hour of

2714
01:48:08,900 --> 01:48:05,210
the show we're talking to Mike Berra

2715
01:48:11,510 --> 01:48:08,910
looking at lunar and Martian mysteries

2716
01:48:13,790 --> 01:48:11,520
and I raised the question about crypto

2717
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:13,800
terrestrials hidden races on earth and

2718
01:48:17,870 --> 01:48:16,050
you're going to have a response well you

2719
01:48:19,310 --> 01:48:17,880
know I I just was gonna say that I think

2720
01:48:21,410 --> 01:48:19,320
that the guy who's probably got the most

2721
01:48:23,330 --> 01:48:21,420
accurate in terms of human origins it's

2722
01:48:24,830 --> 01:48:23,340
really Decker I such and then Lloyd

2723
01:48:26,270 --> 01:48:24,840
Lloyd Pye it I'm not you guys have ever

2724
01:48:28,850 --> 01:48:26,280
had Lloyd Pye on your show I don't know

2725
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:28,860
if you like in our early years we had

2726
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:31,410
Lloyd Pye we talked about that artifact

2727
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:33,810
that he was carrying along and then we

2728
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:36,210
had some kind of controversy because one

2729
01:48:41,060 --> 01:48:38,730
of our listeners was involved in trying

2730
01:48:44,890 --> 01:48:41,070
to make a replica of it I don't even

2731
01:48:48,830 --> 01:48:47,300
may you know it made a really strong

2732
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:48,840
case the lady zecharia sitchin later

2733
01:48:54,430 --> 01:48:51,090
what a strong case the basically modern

2734
01:48:57,290 --> 01:48:54,440
man is life together from this Annunaki

2735
01:48:59,710 --> 01:48:57,300
extraterrestrial DNA and like the

2736
01:49:02,570 --> 01:48:59,720
Annabelle DNA and getting you look at

2737
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:02,580
human mitochondrial DNA and it only goes

2738
01:49:07,340 --> 01:49:05,040
back 200 thousand years it completely

2739
01:49:09,440 --> 01:49:07,350
blew up all the theories of evolution it

2740
01:49:12,020 --> 01:49:09,450
basically you know shattered the

2741
01:49:13,610 --> 01:49:12,030
Darwinian delusion that we just are

2742
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:13,620
served formed by some sort of accident

2743
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:15,930
and I think all those Prime friends put

2744
01:49:19,610 --> 01:49:18,210
together in in the sense that you know

2745
01:49:22,220 --> 01:49:19,620
we seem to have come into existence

2746
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:22,230
about two hundred thousand years ago

2747
01:49:26,480 --> 01:49:23,850
which is just the blink of an eye in

2748
01:49:28,730 --> 01:49:26,490
geologic terms and and certainly in

2749
01:49:29,870 --> 01:49:28,740
terms of the lifetime of the galaxy you

2750
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:29,880
know we just sort of sprung into

2751
01:49:33,380 --> 01:49:31,890
existence fully formed with our skulls

2752
01:49:35,060 --> 01:49:33,390
or our brains and everything that we

2753
01:49:36,830 --> 01:49:35,070
have right now and I really think that

2754
01:49:39,170 --> 01:49:36,840
when you talk about human origins that's

2755
01:49:40,429 --> 01:49:39,180
probably the most likely story now maybe

2756
01:49:41,899 --> 01:49:40,439
some of these ancients are they

2757
01:49:44,179 --> 01:49:41,909
you talk about the ones are living

2758
01:49:46,069 --> 01:49:44,189
underground maybe that's where some of

2759
01:49:47,870 --> 01:49:46,079
the Anunnaki went maybe that's that's

2760
01:49:49,310 --> 01:49:47,880
who these people are I don't know you

2761
01:49:50,870 --> 01:49:49,320
hear all kinds of stories you hear

2762
01:49:54,409 --> 01:49:50,880
stories they're not they're not on the

2763
01:49:56,270 --> 01:49:54,419
12th planet with it so three thousand

2764
01:49:58,219 --> 01:49:56,280
year orbit or something going all the

2765
01:50:00,409 --> 01:49:58,229
way out into the cold fringes of the

2766
01:50:02,629 --> 01:50:00,419
solar system and then returning back so

2767
01:50:04,159 --> 01:50:02,639
they actually jumped off and they're

2768
01:50:06,020 --> 01:50:04,169
here now maybe that's who the crypto

2769
01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:06,030
terrestrials are well you know you know

2770
01:50:11,060 --> 01:50:08,639
Bob Dean Robert Logan has said on

2771
01:50:12,770 --> 01:50:11,070
various times you know extraterrestrials

2772
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:12,780
aren't just in the government they are

2773
01:50:16,159 --> 01:50:14,610
the government and he talks about people

2774
01:50:18,679 --> 01:50:16,169
that he's met but he believes are

2775
01:50:21,199 --> 01:50:18,689
defendants about iñaki or Anunnaki that

2776
01:50:24,020 --> 01:50:21,209
have been around for a long time and are

2777
01:50:26,089 --> 01:50:24,030
trying to sort of clear their karma the

2778
01:50:27,620 --> 01:50:26,099
bad stuff that they did by staying here

2779
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:27,630
and helping us through this transitional

2780
01:50:32,419 --> 01:50:30,449
period that we're going through so it's

2781
01:50:35,629 --> 01:50:32,429
possible it's possible I don't know but

2782
01:50:37,969 --> 01:50:35,639
that's certainly one possibility yeah

2783
01:50:39,739 --> 01:50:37,979
well let's let's talk about your new

2784
01:50:42,229 --> 01:50:39,749
book here real quick once you give us a

2785
01:50:44,779 --> 01:50:42,239
quick thumbnail sketch of what your your

2786
01:50:47,299 --> 01:50:44,789
original vision was in writing this book

2787
01:50:49,250 --> 01:50:47,309
where are you going with it why what was

2788
01:50:51,679 --> 01:50:49,260
the motivation to write this book number

2789
01:50:53,449 --> 01:50:51,689
one well the primary motivation is that

2790
01:50:55,609 --> 01:50:53,459
you know this whole ancient alien thing

2791
01:50:57,500 --> 01:50:55,619
has really taken off and what I

2792
01:50:59,179 --> 01:50:57,510
discovered is that there's a very young

2793
01:51:00,560 --> 01:50:59,189
audience of people that have never heard

2794
01:51:02,330 --> 01:51:00,570
about this stuff you know you guys have

2795
01:51:03,649 --> 01:51:02,340
been around for a while we've all been

2796
01:51:05,989 --> 01:51:03,659
around for a while we all know who these

2797
01:51:07,459 --> 01:51:05,999
people are we know who he is we know who

2798
01:51:09,319 --> 01:51:07,469
some of the other posts are we all

2799
01:51:11,659 --> 01:51:09,329
remember our bell we all remember all

2800
01:51:13,219 --> 01:51:11,669
this stuff but these younger people are

2801
01:51:14,629 --> 01:51:13,229
just coming along and they're just

2802
01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:14,639
hearing about this and they're hearing

2803
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:16,169
about these kinds of things through

2804
01:51:20,989 --> 01:51:19,050
YouTube and through shows like ancient

2805
01:51:23,750 --> 01:51:20,999
aliens the texts and you know I'm lucky

2806
01:51:25,669 --> 01:51:23,760
enough to be a part of so you know I

2807
01:51:27,199 --> 01:51:25,679
thought to myself well there really is a

2808
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:27,209
lot of talk about ancient aliens in

2809
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:28,650
terms of the earth and they've almost

2810
01:51:31,819 --> 01:51:30,570
pretty much exhausted that I think I

2811
01:51:33,649 --> 01:51:31,829
think once you got to the point of you

2812
01:51:35,089 --> 01:51:33,659
know ancient aliens involved in with

2813
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:35,099
Thanksgiving I think we kind of reached

2814
01:51:38,810 --> 01:51:36,719
the end of the engineering a virus line

2815
01:51:40,969 --> 01:51:38,820
and so what I thought was what there's

2816
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:40,979
people don't know this whole histories

2817
01:51:45,290 --> 01:51:43,530
and I've been aware of for for 20 years

2818
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:45,300
now and it's time to take this stuff and

2819
01:51:50,750 --> 01:51:48,090
and some new information finds the

2820
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:50,760
information and put it into a simple

2821
01:51:56,300 --> 01:51:54,210
straightforward book they can they can

2822
01:51:59,120 --> 01:51:56,310
learn about the history of ancient

2823
01:52:00,920 --> 01:51:59,130
artifacts and ruins and ancient aliens

2824
01:52:02,959 --> 01:52:00,930
on the moon I thought well I want to put

2825
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:02,969
this thing together and do it and I'll

2826
01:52:06,470 --> 01:52:04,770
check them through you know all the

2827
01:52:09,260 --> 01:52:06,480
stuff from Chandi and lunar phenomenon

2828
01:52:11,690 --> 01:52:09,270
through some of the very early books on

2829
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:11,700
the subject through the Apollo program

2830
01:52:15,950 --> 01:52:14,489
Hoagland series in discoveries that have

2831
01:52:17,959 --> 01:52:15,960
been made stuff that I've worked on that

2832
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:17,969
I've never really published before so I

2833
01:52:23,570 --> 01:52:20,130
just thought this is a great way to just

2834
01:52:26,060 --> 01:52:23,580
focus on the artifacts and the existence

2835
01:52:30,260 --> 01:52:26,070
of these ruins on our neighbor right at

2836
01:52:32,180 --> 01:52:30,270
forum you're 239,000 miles prometheus is

2837
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:32,190
gonna try to well they're already in

2838
01:52:37,310 --> 01:52:35,010
production for a fifth season they even

2839
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:37,320
there's talking about six season so but

2840
01:52:42,380 --> 01:52:38,489
I'll tell you they're milking the cow

2841
01:52:48,940 --> 01:52:42,390
bro well it's a popular show the reason

2842
01:52:54,260 --> 01:52:52,790
have it they don't use the old media you

2843
01:52:56,540 --> 01:52:54,270
know anymore to get their information

2844
01:52:58,640 --> 01:52:56,550
than using the new media and so I

2845
01:53:00,860 --> 01:52:58,650
thought well you know I'll get this out

2846
01:53:04,910 --> 01:53:00,870
get it on Kindle and I'll try to get

2847
01:53:07,250 --> 01:53:04,920
that people aware investigations have

2848
01:53:08,630 --> 01:53:07,260
been going on for decades really Chris

2849
01:53:11,090 --> 01:53:08,640
we have some questions that our

2850
01:53:13,010 --> 01:53:11,100
listeners are asking about lunar

2851
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:13,020
mysteries and about their concerns we've

2852
01:53:17,209 --> 01:53:14,610
asked a few already would you continue

2853
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:17,219
well we do have other questions from our

2854
01:53:23,300 --> 01:53:20,489
listeners at forum dr. Perik as comm you

2855
01:53:25,220 --> 01:53:23,310
know there's a couple that are they're a

2856
01:53:27,650 --> 01:53:25,230
little provocative so we'll save those

2857
01:53:30,740 --> 01:53:27,660
for later but first of all gobsmacked ii

2858
01:53:33,740 --> 01:53:30,750
is one of our you know most uh fervent

2859
01:53:36,650 --> 01:53:33,750
posters he's been really involved in the

2860
01:53:38,660 --> 01:53:36,660
year or so that he's been a forum member

2861
01:53:40,490 --> 01:53:38,670
and he always comes up with some very

2862
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:40,500
interesting questions and you brought up

2863
01:53:45,650 --> 01:53:42,690
the whole subject of transient lunar

2864
01:53:47,979 --> 01:53:45,660
phenomena and for some of our new

2865
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:47,989
listeners who may not be up to speed on

2866
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:50,850
concerning the the really impressive

2867
01:53:57,229 --> 01:53:53,810
history of astronomers observing

2868
01:53:59,330 --> 01:53:57,239
unexplained what appear to be as the

2869
01:54:01,310 --> 01:53:59,340
term implies transient luna phenomenon

2870
01:54:03,410 --> 01:54:01,320
and in gobsmacked he says mike have you

2871
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:03,420
any reason to believe images taken by

2872
01:54:07,190 --> 01:54:05,850
recent lunar orbiters may have been

2873
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:07,200
doctored before the public can

2874
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:08,010
scrutinized that

2875
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:11,250
and what evidence of TLP or trans in

2876
01:54:15,050 --> 01:54:12,810
transient Luna phenomenon do you

2877
01:54:16,820 --> 01:54:15,060
personally find the most compelling can

2878
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:16,830
you could you give us some actual

2879
01:54:20,810 --> 01:54:18,690
details of plate numbers or coordinates

2880
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:20,820
or something that we some of our

2881
01:54:24,979 --> 01:54:22,650
listeners can then follow up and do some

2882
01:54:27,380 --> 01:54:24,989
research with well I find all the TLP

2883
01:54:29,630 --> 01:54:27,390
reports to be compelling and to me they

2884
01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:29,640
work in the context of this idea that

2885
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:31,920
there are these these enormous glass

2886
01:54:36,380 --> 01:54:34,530
structures most prominently on the front

2887
01:54:38,479 --> 01:54:36,390
side of the moon but all you know all

2888
01:54:40,700 --> 01:54:38,489
over the moon that are basically were

2889
01:54:43,550 --> 01:54:40,710
built as a meteor shield almost to act

2890
01:54:47,479 --> 01:54:43,560
like like an artificial atmosphere over

2891
01:54:48,890 --> 01:54:47,489
the over the moon itself and you know

2892
01:54:52,310 --> 01:54:48,900
what would happen is is that when you

2893
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:52,320
have these multiple layers of this glass

2894
01:54:56,180 --> 01:54:54,330
instructions sort of scaffolding kind of

2895
01:54:58,550 --> 01:54:56,190
structure there that's gonna happen is

2896
01:55:01,100 --> 01:54:58,560
that light is going to come in and hit

2897
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:01,110
these different panes and panels and

2898
01:55:03,650 --> 01:55:02,370
it's going to pass through and it's

2899
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:03,660
going to be bent and it's going to slow

2900
01:55:09,530 --> 01:55:06,690
down and these giant glass shields are

2901
01:55:11,300 --> 01:55:09,540
gonna act like prisms so what when that

2902
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:11,310
happens you're gonna get very vibrant

2903
01:55:14,450 --> 01:55:12,810
colors you're going to get very strange

2904
01:55:16,910 --> 01:55:14,460
colors you're going to see reds and

2905
01:55:18,860 --> 01:55:16,920
greens and blues and all sorts of

2906
01:55:20,479 --> 01:55:18,870
different colors in the spectrum and as

2907
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:20,489
you go back and look at reports of

2908
01:55:23,810 --> 01:55:22,560
transient phenomenon that's pretty much

2909
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:23,820
what they see they see things that

2910
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:26,370
appear to be vaporous that appear to be

2911
01:55:31,610 --> 01:55:28,890
different colors like red and green and

2912
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:31,620
blue and I think it's really consistent

2913
01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:33,570
with this idea that there is this sort

2914
01:55:38,780 --> 01:55:35,760
of enormous very very ancient Meteor

2915
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:38,790
shield over the entire as well almost at

2916
01:55:42,979 --> 01:55:40,410
one time was probably almost the entire

2917
01:55:45,229 --> 01:55:42,989
surface of the Moon so I find all the

2918
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:45,239
reports compelling and I think they're

2919
01:55:48,830 --> 01:55:47,130
all very consistent with that that

2920
01:55:51,110 --> 01:55:48,840
theory which you know by the way again

2921
01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:51,120
not to keep dropping the image mr.

2922
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:53,130
Hogan's theory so I talked about that in

2923
01:55:57,590 --> 01:55:55,290
the book and it's aliens on the moon and

2924
01:55:59,320 --> 01:55:57,600
I think that that's just you know my

2925
01:56:01,220 --> 01:55:59,330
opinion on them is that they are

2926
01:56:03,290 --> 01:56:01,230
legitimate and I don't think anybody

2927
01:56:05,780 --> 01:56:03,300
really questioned that they're real

2928
01:56:08,540 --> 01:56:05,790
what's lacking is nobody wants to say

2929
01:56:10,130 --> 01:56:08,550
this is your reason why people see these

2930
01:56:11,870 --> 01:56:10,140
TLPs they want to come up with every

2931
01:56:15,020 --> 01:56:11,880
explanation except that one because that

2932
01:56:16,340 --> 01:56:15,030
is artificial structures and nobody's

2933
01:56:18,770 --> 01:56:16,350
going to go to go there

2934
01:56:20,450 --> 01:56:18,780
let me put together as to the the other

2935
01:56:21,770 --> 01:56:20,460
question having that he's been doctored

2936
01:56:24,939 --> 01:56:21,780
I I'm sad

2937
01:56:27,169 --> 01:56:24,949
say that I got a say yes on that one and

2938
01:56:30,010 --> 01:56:27,179
recently I was involved in a pretty

2939
01:56:31,970 --> 01:56:30,020
expensive controversy with a guy and

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mention things I'm not sure give me the

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credit but a guy who has a bunking

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Daedalus

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Zera which is a an artifact on an image

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that looks like a ziggurat or a pyramid

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that it to make advantages from other

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probes more advanced images that you

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aren't going to see this particular

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artifact well as I dug into it we looked

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at stuff from Japanese probe that were

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not there to do yet into this call and

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there weren't several images of the area

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they were all sort of whitewashed they

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didn't really show anything but as I

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cliffhanger with Mike Berra he's the

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author of ancient aliens on the moon and

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he's looking at this structure or

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something on the back side of the Moon

3064
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what did you find

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well as I got into this image from the

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Japanese Karl but I found nothing but

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compression artifacts what they had done

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is they had so over compresses

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particular JPEG before they posted on

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the web that when you zoomed up on the

3071
02:02:27,330 --> 02:02:25,389
area you got nothing but checkerboards

3072
02:02:29,399 --> 02:02:27,340
it was just this enormous checkerboard

3073
02:02:31,830 --> 02:02:29,409
it was useless for any kind of detail

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work and it was you know it's pretty

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02:02:35,700 --> 02:02:33,699
disheartening because the thing is in

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order to get something that compressed

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you have to go out of your way to create

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compression or attachment you basically

3079
02:02:46,379 --> 02:02:43,449
are talking here about digital artifacts

3080
02:02:47,819 --> 02:02:46,389
or large pixels and stuff like that yeah

3081
02:02:49,319 --> 02:02:47,829
yeah basically yeah well you're

3082
02:02:51,779 --> 02:02:49,329
suggesting the Japanese the Japanese

3083
02:02:55,169 --> 02:02:51,789
then are involved in some sort of

3084
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conspiracy of obstacle to to keep the

3085
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facts from the people as well as I think

3086
02:03:02,819 --> 02:03:00,969
the entire world is part of this

3087
02:03:05,850 --> 02:03:02,829
conspiracy if you want to call it that

3088
02:03:07,799 --> 02:03:05,860
to keep the reality of ancient

3089
02:03:09,750 --> 02:03:07,809
extraterrestrial ruins from the people

3090
02:03:13,229 --> 02:03:09,760
yeah I do I think it's a worldwide

3091
02:03:14,100 --> 02:03:13,239
policy I don't have any have any problem

3092
02:03:16,259 --> 02:03:14,110
with 13x

3093
02:03:18,390 --> 02:03:16,269
and it's very clear from the data there

3094
02:03:20,609 --> 02:03:18,400
are occasionally weeks that come out you

3095
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have to put some occasionally have to

3096
02:03:23,939 --> 02:03:22,030
put some real information and

3097
02:03:27,029 --> 02:03:23,949
disinformation to make something really

3098
02:03:30,629 --> 02:03:27,039
stick but yeah I mean in terms of this

3099
02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:30,639
experience I've only found I found three

3100
02:03:35,759 --> 02:03:33,130
different images of this thing that

3101
02:03:37,649 --> 02:03:35,769
appear to be genuine and everything else

3102
02:03:38,910 --> 02:03:37,659
that I found online digitally whether it

3103
02:03:41,100 --> 02:03:38,920
was from NASA or whether it was in

3104
02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:41,110
Japanese probes so far every single

3105
02:03:46,319 --> 02:03:44,050
other image of the area has been clearly

3106
02:03:48,870 --> 02:03:46,329
been tampered with whether it's simply

3107
02:03:50,879 --> 02:03:48,880
removing the contrast so that you can't

3108
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:50,889
see the lights and shaving I've even

3109
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:52,570
caught the you know in nasa's case i

3110
02:03:56,370 --> 02:03:54,730
found them where they took an airbrush

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tool they basically wanted to something

3112
02:04:01,200 --> 02:03:58,840
like photoshop took a black paint brush

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and spray paint and then fake craters

3114
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:01,900
over this thing

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cover it up so it's all that's all

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covered on my blog it's on blogs my

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commission it's Mike Barrett got

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blogspot.com and one on Mike when we

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about the episode if we'll take them

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there and you know I talked about it was

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very I think my response was about

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20,000 words to this guy I went through

3129
02:04:34,260 --> 02:04:32,679
and and you know again I posted the

3130
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images when you complain and see that

3131
02:04:39,630 --> 02:04:36,790
these have been this particular area has

3132
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been obscured you know unfortunately the

3133
02:04:44,160 --> 02:04:41,860
thing it's really sad for them is I'm on

3134
02:04:45,870 --> 02:04:44,170
the NASA image where this this should

3135
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have been the most clear the digital

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mapping image which is a f11 - 38 - 55

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64 for those of you that are riding

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liver out itself isn't secured by some

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of the tricks and things that they did

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but there's all kinds of other

3142
02:05:10,380 --> 02:05:07,900
mechanisms and machinery and there's

3143
02:05:12,540 --> 02:05:10,390
stuff like on a hillside above this area

3144
02:05:14,490 --> 02:05:12,550
that there's a there's a recess looks

3145
02:05:15,930 --> 02:05:14,500
like a recess hanger cut into a mountain

3146
02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:15,940
and there's a flying saucer

3147
02:05:20,370 --> 02:05:17,920
I swear to god it's just there's

3148
02:05:22,500 --> 02:05:20,380
artifacts all over this image so it's

3149
02:05:24,689 --> 02:05:22,510
really quite extraordinary and you know

3150
02:05:26,070 --> 02:05:24,699
I think that they just said oh crap

3151
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there's a pyramid here we got to draw

3152
02:05:30,959 --> 02:05:27,580
over that so they did that but they just

3153
02:05:33,180 --> 02:05:30,969
miss all kinds of other things that

3154
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:33,190
brings up a really interesting point in

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Ian one of our longtime for him members

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and posters it wants to know a general

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02:05:42,479 --> 02:05:40,719
point for you in Victorian times it was

3158
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:42,489
widely believed that other people

3159
02:05:47,130 --> 02:05:44,170
quote-unquote might live on the moon

3160
02:05:49,500 --> 02:05:47,140
Mars etc if Confirmation had come let's

3161
02:05:51,390 --> 02:05:49,510
say in 1890 it seems likely that

3162
02:05:53,729 --> 02:05:51,400
religion and society in general would

3163
02:05:56,399 --> 02:05:53,739
have just accepted it what has happened

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02:05:58,290 --> 02:05:56,409
to religion in society since then that

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02:05:59,640 --> 02:05:58,300
now demands such an effort to hide

3166
02:06:02,310 --> 02:05:59,650
evidence of extraterrestrial life

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02:06:04,410 --> 02:06:02,320
assuming there is anything to hide good

3168
02:06:06,209 --> 02:06:04,420
question you know you know I've seen in

3169
02:06:08,250 --> 02:06:06,219
the late 1800s was a really kind of

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enlightened period where I don't think

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people saw conflict between

3172
02:06:15,209 --> 02:06:13,300
extraterrestrial life and God's creation

3173
02:06:15,780 --> 02:06:15,219
of man you know the Christian comment

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02:06:18,270 --> 02:06:15,790
the Christian

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02:06:20,610 --> 02:06:18,280
man but you know what happened I mean I

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02:06:23,340 --> 02:06:20,620
don't think anything's happened I just

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02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:23,350
think that we we have a lot of people in

3178
02:06:28,500 --> 02:06:25,570
this world that are not very bright and

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02:06:30,690 --> 02:06:28,510
that are very locked into their

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religious structures and belief systems

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02:06:35,790 --> 02:06:34,300
and basically are not going to ever want

3182
02:06:37,980 --> 02:06:35,800
to believe anything like this and

3183
02:06:39,500 --> 02:06:37,990
anybody who's espousing it is a heretic

3184
02:06:41,490 --> 02:06:39,510
and it's really interesting because

3185
02:06:44,220 --> 02:06:41,500
scientists and the engineers that are

3186
02:06:46,020 --> 02:06:44,230
part of the establishment are also

3187
02:06:47,790 --> 02:06:46,030
included in that group the things are

3188
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:47,800
really they're totally giving the

3189
02:06:52,020 --> 02:06:49,450
background on this and if you look at

3190
02:06:53,370 --> 02:06:52,030
the Brookings report which again I

3191
02:06:53,900 --> 02:06:53,380
talked about in ancient aliens on the

3192
02:06:56,880 --> 02:06:53,910
moon

3193
02:06:59,430 --> 02:06:56,890
essentially the Brookings report was was

3194
02:07:02,670 --> 02:06:59,440
commissioned by NASA at the beginning of

3195
02:07:04,710 --> 02:07:02,680
faith agency to basically evaluate what

3196
02:07:06,270 --> 02:07:04,720
should we do with the things that we

3197
02:07:07,710 --> 02:07:06,280
discover what we do about the things

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02:07:08,580 --> 02:07:07,720
that we discover as we travel through

3199
02:07:11,300 --> 02:07:08,590
the solar system

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02:07:13,710 --> 02:07:11,310
and the recommendation was flat out

3201
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:13,720
you're probably going to find artifacts

3202
02:07:18,900 --> 02:07:15,850
on the Moon or Mars or Venus and it's

3203
02:07:22,020 --> 02:07:18,910
due you should seriously think about

3204
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:22,030
suppressing them because society cannot

3205
02:07:25,980 --> 02:07:24,250
handle it and they used the War of the

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Worlds broadcast by Orson Welles as an

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example they Stanley Kubrick's film 2001

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02:07:32,820 --> 02:07:31,510
a Space Odyssey was all based on the

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Brookings report I mean he could quote

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from a chapter and verse so basically

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the reason why they don't want to tell

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us and why there's a cover-up and why it

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would be worldwide it's because the

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powers and the B have decided way back

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in 1958 or 1960 that if we were to

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understand or come face-to-face with the

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knowledge that we were not the top of

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02:08:01,380 --> 02:07:58,300
the food chain in the universe that we

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02:08:03,390 --> 02:08:01,390
would go crazy and I'd find it say I

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02:08:05,310 --> 02:08:03,400
kind of agree with that because my

3221
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experience of dealing with NASA tights

3222
02:08:10,740 --> 02:08:08,010
and the debunkers is that they are

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desperately afraid of people like me

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02:08:14,910 --> 02:08:12,880
that are trying to get the rest of us to

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02:08:18,090 --> 02:08:14,920
wake up and say look at this over here

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02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:18,100
this is pyramid on the middle so I gotta

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say I'm kind of an agreement with that I

3228
02:08:24,420 --> 02:08:22,150
still think that we are not ready yet

3229
02:08:27,300 --> 02:08:24,430
that kind of a revelation and I think

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02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:27,310
that's why it's so being held back we

3231
02:08:29,700 --> 02:08:28,810
have another question that Kris wants to

3232
02:08:31,830 --> 02:08:29,710
ask and

3233
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:31,840
I just wanted to theorize here so

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02:08:36,450 --> 02:08:33,570
therefore if we can't handle the truth

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02:08:38,250 --> 02:08:36,460
we could just persist for years and

3236
02:08:40,890 --> 02:08:38,260
never know what's really going on Chris

3237
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:40,900
another question for our audience well

3238
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go ahead Mike was mine you guys there's

3239
02:08:49,010 --> 02:08:47,199
truth to be known out there I think you

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02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:49,020
know I mean fictions books are truth

3241
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dark mission is true ancient aliens on

3242
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the moon is true the choice has truth in

3243
02:09:01,140 --> 02:08:59,830
it Mike I mean it's subject yeah right

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but that's the whole thing is what you

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guys are looking for is you're looking

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for some sort of acknowledgement by

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authority figures that this is real and

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02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:09,730
I'm just telling you that's never gonna

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happen

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because to me they're already in charge

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they're already at the top any sort of

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revelation like this they can only go

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one direction and that's bound so I

3254
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don't believe you're ever gonna get that

3255
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I mean people that believe in disclosure

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you know Steve Bassett and David Wilcock

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that are always talking like disclosure

3258
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I don't think official disclosure is

3259
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ever going to happen but truth will come

3260
02:09:36,810 --> 02:09:35,260
out and we're in this 2012 energy period

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02:09:39,540 --> 02:09:36,820
where we're going through an apocalypse

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an apocalypse simply means that a veil

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will be lifted to lift the veil and

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reveal the truth and then that will

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create revolution well that sounds

3266
02:09:50,550 --> 02:09:47,429
mystical as opposed to practical

3267
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Pandora's box or worms of that one Mike

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yeah Mike you are starting here because

3269
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we're talking about something here it

3270
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sounds mystical rather than practical

3271
02:10:00,330 --> 02:09:58,270
maybe it's the right time to reveal more

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information maybe the governments of

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Earth could be encouraged if they know

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something and all this stuff is true but

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as I said it sounds more like mystical

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in the way you're presenting it rather

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than just a practical consequence of

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where we are anyway Mike Beier joins us

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the book is ancient aliens on the moon

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to the podcast the gold standard of a

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with gene and Chris on the para cast

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Mike Barrett joining us talking about

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lunar mysteries Marcia mysteries secret

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space programs and more you want to

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respond to what I said about the

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mystical implications because Chris has

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another question for you after that well

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02:15:14,120 --> 02:15:12,390
not really I mean I you know I think

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we're in a kind of a mystical time I

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mean that's what my second book all the

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choice was about with it we're in this

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energy field where things are gonna be

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02:15:23,689 --> 02:15:20,820
revealed and it's gonna shift but I'm

3403
02:15:25,700 --> 02:15:23,699
just saying I don't think it might hold

3404
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hold on hold on we're in this energy

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field could you be a little bit more

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specific well what the choice basically

3407
02:15:39,020 --> 02:15:36,449
describes is that experimental physics

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have shown that things like alignments

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of planets astronomical alignment

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eclipses transits of Venus that euro

3411
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distances these things affect human

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consciousness physical instruments and

3413
02:15:55,820 --> 02:15:52,409
electronic devices there is a plethora

3414
02:15:58,459 --> 02:15:55,830
to use a big word evidence that this is

3415
02:15:59,750 --> 02:15:58,469
the case and what I did is I put that

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02:16:01,760 --> 02:15:59,760
all together along with the ancient

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02:16:03,770 --> 02:16:01,770
mysteries the Hopi and things like that

3418
02:16:05,720 --> 02:16:03,780
and said look if you look at what all

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02:16:07,820 --> 02:16:05,730
these cultures are saying and look at

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02:16:10,010 --> 02:16:07,830
what the alignments all saying with the

3421
02:16:13,100 --> 02:16:10,020
astronomy and astrology and the physics

3422
02:16:15,970 --> 02:16:13,110
a hyperdimensional physics of 2012 said

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02:16:19,640 --> 02:16:15,980
that we're going to go through a period

3424
02:16:21,290 --> 02:16:19,650
revelation chaos and change and that's

3425
02:16:24,110 --> 02:16:21,300
what's going on now and the cool thing

3426
02:16:25,370 --> 02:16:24,120
about it is that you know stuff like we

3427
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are interested in like you guys are

3428
02:16:29,510 --> 02:16:28,110
interested in pair TAS here radio the

3429
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truth is going to start to come out on

3430
02:16:32,780 --> 02:16:31,110
all this stuff and it's basically I

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think it's pointless to look for

3432
02:16:36,469 --> 02:16:34,110
governments to acknowledge it because

3433
02:16:38,570 --> 02:16:36,479
it's going to become really self-evident

3434
02:16:41,150 --> 02:16:38,580
it can become really obvious to everyone

3435
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what the truth of these things are and

3436
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you know according to that book

3437
02:16:45,259 --> 02:16:44,370
according why I put down the choice I

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think we're going to be in this

3439
02:16:50,570 --> 02:16:47,519
transitional period for another 10 years

3440
02:16:52,370 --> 02:16:50,580
or so probably for 2023 so I think we

3441
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can look forward to not necessarily a

3442
02:16:57,560 --> 02:16:54,540
rocky ride but certainly a an

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interesting series of interesting times

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coming up so it's not gonna it's not

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going to end on December 21st 2012

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that's right so you you agree with my my

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term we're approaching y-20

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12k yeah I do I do when I talk about

3449
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that in choice very specifically but

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believe me we are kind of already in

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2012 in terms of what they thought was

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going to happen

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and I understand look there's a physics

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background to this that most people

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didn't realize it's more than just

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mythology more than just ancient beliefs

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and more than just speculation like

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astrology there's actually a physics

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behind it and and in Detroit I try to

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show you what all those experiments are

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and to say hey look you know you got to

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get ready for this wild ride because

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it's going to be really fun but the

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scary one going through it doesn't have

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to be bad it can be fun and that's

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that's okay now we're going to get into

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a question a bit of a controversy on the

3468
02:17:56,839 --> 02:17:54,449
forums in the question Bank thread that

3469
02:17:58,669 --> 02:17:56,849
we put up and it involves your claim of

3470
02:18:01,069 --> 02:17:58,679
finding the Daedalus ziggurat

3471
02:18:02,959 --> 02:18:01,079
we have a question from trained observer

3472
02:18:05,540 --> 02:18:02,969
who calls himself paranormally

3473
02:18:07,459 --> 02:18:05,550
disenchanted he's a longtime posted on

3474
02:18:09,559 --> 02:18:07,469
the forums he said Mike isn't it true

3475
02:18:11,809 --> 02:18:09,569
that your ziggurat photo dates back to

3476
02:18:14,359 --> 02:18:11,819
the late 90s and it originated with an

3477
02:18:17,389 --> 02:18:14,369
apparent hoax her name Terry James went

3478
02:18:18,799 --> 02:18:17,399
by the handle Kay Kay Samurai the photo

3479
02:18:20,750 --> 02:18:18,809
that Mike bears claiming is his

3480
02:18:22,219 --> 02:18:20,760
discovery came from someone called Kiki

3481
02:18:24,649 --> 02:18:22,229
Samara who apparently made several

3482
02:18:27,769 --> 02:18:24,659
Hope's photos in the 90s as shown below

3483
02:18:30,469 --> 02:18:27,779
and he gives examples of this particular

3484
02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:30,479
guy Terry James's photographs now were

3485
02:18:34,309 --> 02:18:33,210
you aware of this guy prior to claiming

3486
02:18:37,370 --> 02:18:34,319
that you were the one that found this

3487
02:18:40,040 --> 02:18:37,380
ziggurat and made actually named it and

3488
02:18:42,729 --> 02:18:40,050
sent it to to Richard Hoagland it is a

3489
02:18:44,929 --> 02:18:42,739
very compelling image I must say

3490
02:18:46,250 --> 02:18:44,939
speaking of ancient cultures I mean that

3491
02:18:47,089 --> 02:18:46,260
looks like something right out of

3492
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:47,099
Babylonia

3493
02:18:52,729 --> 02:18:50,130
but yeah give us some background on on

3494
02:18:54,469 --> 02:18:52,739
your discovery of this image and whether

3495
02:18:56,389 --> 02:18:54,479
or not you knew about this very James

3496
02:18:59,030 --> 02:18:56,399
character first of all let's get through

3497
02:19:01,519 --> 02:18:59,040
who this person probably is theirs

3498
02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:01,529
I have several cyber stalkers there's

3499
02:19:05,330 --> 02:19:03,090
one in particular whose name I'm not

3500
02:19:08,929 --> 02:19:05,340
even gonna mention either this guy is

3501
02:19:10,879 --> 02:19:08,939
fed information by this nut bag or he is

3502
02:19:12,950 --> 02:19:10,889
in that bag himself under an assumed

3503
02:19:15,229 --> 02:19:12,960
name if this person has cyber stalked me

3504
02:19:18,109 --> 02:19:15,239
in Richards for years he's obsessive

3505
02:19:20,599 --> 02:19:18,119
he's compulsive he's out of his mind he

3506
02:19:22,639 --> 02:19:20,609
has a real problem with my

3507
02:19:25,070 --> 02:19:22,649
we even breathing and I frankly I'm

3508
02:19:26,330 --> 02:19:25,080
afraid of guys that not but I will

3509
02:19:28,309 --> 02:19:26,340
answer the question just first of all

3510
02:19:30,799 --> 02:19:28,319
you can tell the deception in what he's

3511
02:19:32,719 --> 02:19:30,809
putting out right there by claiming that

3512
02:19:34,429 --> 02:19:32,729
I ever claimed that this was quote my

3513
02:19:40,520 --> 02:19:34,439
discovery I've never claimed this is my

3514
02:19:41,870 --> 02:19:40,530
discovery on your blog spot here let me

3515
02:19:44,150 --> 02:19:41,880
read it to you first of all it's not

3516
02:19:45,770 --> 02:19:44,160
Hoagland ziggurat it's my ziggurat I'm

3517
02:19:47,629 --> 02:19:45,780
the one who found it I'm the one who

3518
02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:47,639
named it I'm the one who researched it

3519
02:19:53,120 --> 02:19:48,930
I'm the one that sent it to him and it's

3520
02:19:54,920 --> 02:19:53,130
gonna be in my new book so in terms of

3521
02:19:57,020 --> 02:19:54,930
calling it a rot

3522
02:19:58,969 --> 02:19:57,030
yes that's what I'm describing that's

3523
02:20:00,950 --> 02:19:58,979
what I'm talking about I'm the one who

3524
02:20:03,740 --> 02:20:00,960
found it on the web and Senator Richard

3525
02:20:05,660 --> 02:20:03,750
I never claimed it was my image and I'm

3526
02:20:07,940 --> 02:20:05,670
it very clear from the beginning where I

3527
02:20:09,920 --> 02:20:07,950
got it from so in other words if I would

3528
02:20:11,540 --> 02:20:09,930
try to pretend this was mine why would I

3529
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:11,550
give you the link and the source that I

3530
02:20:17,059 --> 02:20:14,010
found it from which was clearly not my

3531
02:20:18,860 --> 02:20:17,069
source so you know it's not mine and

3532
02:20:21,770 --> 02:20:18,870
this is people trying to take specific

3533
02:20:23,870 --> 02:20:21,780
statements and distort them into meeting

3534
02:20:25,610 --> 02:20:23,880
something other than their intent but

3535
02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:25,620
what they originally meant I'm not going

3536
02:20:29,990 --> 02:20:28,170
to use the words out of context but this

3537
02:20:31,450 --> 02:20:30,000
is definitely not somebody with any good

3538
02:20:34,520 --> 02:20:31,460
intentions to put it that way

3539
02:20:36,469 --> 02:20:34,530
secondly I was aware of this image I've

3540
02:20:39,380 --> 02:20:36,479
seen this image before I've seen this

3541
02:20:41,210 --> 02:20:39,390
image before 1998 as a matter of fact I

3542
02:20:43,849 --> 02:20:41,220
don't believe you I recall seeing a

3543
02:20:46,280 --> 02:20:43,859
beckoning oh yeah I do before I don't

3544
02:20:48,290 --> 02:20:46,290
believe that kk k-- samurai is the

3545
02:20:50,179 --> 02:20:48,300
original source of this particular image

3546
02:20:51,860 --> 02:20:50,189
because i saw it before it was put

3547
02:20:53,929 --> 02:20:51,870
around by him or anybody else I also

3548
02:20:56,570 --> 02:20:53,939
question whether or not he is a quote

3549
02:20:58,099 --> 02:20:56,580
hoaxer that's something I think we can

3550
02:20:58,880 --> 02:20:58,109
debate but again it's not really up ten

3551
02:21:01,280 --> 02:20:58,890
here's the other thing

3552
02:21:03,830 --> 02:21:01,290
so even why I think this image is

3553
02:21:06,110 --> 02:21:03,840
probably significant now significant and

3554
02:21:09,710 --> 02:21:06,120
it's probably genuine is the fact that

3555
02:21:14,090 --> 02:21:09,720
it shows evidence of having them stand

3556
02:21:16,490 --> 02:21:14,100
from a photographic print as opposed to

3557
02:21:18,679 --> 02:21:16,500
being something digital you also have

3558
02:21:21,590 --> 02:21:18,689
the fact that NASA went to very

3559
02:21:24,139 --> 02:21:21,600
expensive very expensive they went to

3560
02:21:27,080 --> 02:21:24,149
great measures to erase it from a number

3561
02:21:28,219 --> 02:21:27,090
of other images and I can clearly prove

3562
02:21:31,190 --> 02:21:28,229
to you that those images have been

3563
02:21:33,290 --> 02:21:31,200
digitally altered by NASA so those two

3564
02:21:34,340 --> 02:21:33,300
things combined make me very confident

3565
02:21:37,250 --> 02:21:34,350
that this is real now

3566
02:21:39,530 --> 02:21:37,260
one thing this thing has residue on it

3567
02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:39,540
this image has residue on it which is in

3568
02:21:44,899 --> 02:21:42,090
a pattern that is very typical of having

3569
02:21:47,630 --> 02:21:44,909
been stored in a photo album under

3570
02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:47,640
somebody fairs for 30 or 40 years I've

3571
02:21:50,809 --> 02:21:49,290
got a lot of images like that they had

3572
02:21:52,580 --> 02:21:50,819
these old glue patterns and again I

3573
02:21:54,380 --> 02:21:52,590
talked about if you go to my website you

3574
02:21:56,630 --> 02:21:54,390
can go to my blog you can look at the

3575
02:21:58,609 --> 02:21:56,640
story I will tell you everything that I

3576
02:22:01,189 --> 02:21:58,619
can deduce about this particular thing

3577
02:22:04,820 --> 02:22:01,199
so I'm I'm very confident that this

3578
02:22:07,309 --> 02:22:04,830
image is at least at least real enough

3579
02:22:09,469 --> 02:22:07,319
that I think somebody went to a great

3580
02:22:12,139 --> 02:22:09,479
deal of trouble to alter the digital

3581
02:22:12,710 --> 02:22:12,149
version that's now on that website okay

3582
02:22:15,590 --> 02:22:12,720
fair enough

3583
02:22:18,559 --> 02:22:15,600
I'm satisfied with that explanation I do

3584
02:22:20,750 --> 02:22:18,569
know how insidious some of these people

3585
02:22:22,460 --> 02:22:20,760
can be there's there's a lot of people

3586
02:22:24,380 --> 02:22:22,470
that are willing to you know it's like

3587
02:22:26,870 --> 02:22:24,390
the crabs all gathered in the bottom of

3588
02:22:28,820 --> 02:22:26,880
the of the of the container the bucket

3589
02:22:30,349 --> 02:22:28,830
and then the one they all pile up to try

3590
02:22:31,760 --> 02:22:30,359
to get out and the one finally gets up

3591
02:22:33,769 --> 02:22:31,770
to the rim and tries to get out and all

3592
02:22:34,939 --> 02:22:33,779
the rest Bowl are back so I believe me I

3593
02:22:37,370 --> 02:22:34,949
know where you're coming from on that

3594
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:37,380
well I mean you know again again it's

3595
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:39,600
it's my cigarette and I'm always saying

3596
02:22:43,070 --> 02:22:41,130
in the context of I'm taking

3597
02:22:44,929 --> 02:22:43,080
responsibility for the image it's not

3598
02:22:47,300 --> 02:22:44,939
Richards image it's mine I gave it to

3599
02:22:48,979 --> 02:22:47,310
him yes carte blanche to do anything he

3600
02:22:50,599 --> 02:22:48,989
wants with anything I give him but what

3601
02:22:53,300 --> 02:22:50,609
I wanted to make clear in that statement

3602
02:22:55,849 --> 02:22:53,310
is he didn't put this image out it's

3603
02:22:57,769 --> 02:22:55,859
mine I'm the one who found it as I

3604
02:22:59,719 --> 02:22:57,779
pointed out that doesn't mean sudden

3605
02:23:02,769 --> 02:22:59,729
that that was meant to say I'm the one

3606
02:23:08,599 --> 02:23:02,779
who found it online and gave it to him

3607
02:23:10,280 --> 02:23:08,609
yeah you don't it's just a post on my

3608
02:23:10,939 --> 02:23:10,290
blog actually that was a post on

3609
02:23:13,460 --> 02:23:10,949
Facebook

3610
02:23:15,889 --> 02:23:13,470
what's even on my blog I mean that's not

3611
02:23:17,269 --> 02:23:15,899
Richards in it it's mine I'm taking

3612
02:23:20,179 --> 02:23:17,279
responsibility for putting it out there

3613
02:23:22,340 --> 02:23:20,189
okay well let's move on I needed to ask

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02:23:26,630 --> 02:23:22,350
that question because we do really try

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02:23:28,609 --> 02:23:26,640
as as much as humanly possible to to

3616
02:23:31,609 --> 02:23:28,619
include our listeners in the broadcast

3617
02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:31,619
and ask her questions this was the

3618
02:23:34,580 --> 02:23:33,210
subject of a couple of a couple three

3619
02:23:36,280 --> 02:23:34,590
questions so I wanted to get that out of

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02:23:40,580 --> 02:23:36,290
the way one thing that has always

3621
02:23:44,809 --> 02:23:40,590
intrigued me has been the Blair cuspids

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02:23:46,780 --> 02:23:44,819
now this is a very very I think little

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02:23:52,240 --> 02:23:46,790
known for

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02:23:53,620 --> 02:23:52,250
or enigma for lack of a better term that

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02:23:55,599 --> 02:23:53,630
we can equate with the moon why don't

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02:23:57,730 --> 02:23:55,609
you give our first time listeners and

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people who aren't up up to speed on some

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of these very enigmatic apparent

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structures on the moon give them a

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little background on what we know the

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Bear Blair cuspids and the whole idea of

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obelisks and their potential role let's

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in in in obelisk and putting them on the

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02:28:08,740 --> 02:28:06,410
on my face in the workplace after being

3731
02:28:10,690 --> 02:28:08,750
on one world way for two weeks I began

3732
02:28:13,420 --> 02:28:10,700
to have a severe rash and itching

3733
02:28:16,300 --> 02:28:13,430
sensation around my eyes this rash in

3734
02:28:19,179 --> 02:28:16,310
itching lasted for five weeks and is now

3735
02:28:21,460 --> 02:28:19,189
100% gone additionally without extra

3736
02:28:23,500 --> 02:28:21,470
exercise have also increased my muscle

3737
02:28:25,690 --> 02:28:23,510
size and my wife have lost weight and

3738
02:28:27,070 --> 02:28:25,700
gained a more attractive figure call

3739
02:28:28,840 --> 02:28:27,080
eight eight eight nine eighty eight

3740
02:28:30,550 --> 02:28:28,850
three three to five that's eight eight

3741
02:28:32,830 --> 02:28:30,560
eight nine eight eight three three to

3742
02:28:35,290 --> 02:28:32,840
five eight eight eight nine eight eight

3743
02:28:42,700 --> 02:28:35,300
three three to five or visit one world

3744
02:28:44,140 --> 02:28:42,710
wacom that's one world wh ey calm hi

3745
02:28:55,360 --> 02:28:44,150
this is Phillips

3746
02:28:57,160 --> 02:28:55,370
listening to the ferret cast and with

3747
02:28:59,890 --> 02:28:57,170
gene and Chris in the parrot cast Mike

3748
02:29:02,200 --> 02:28:59,900
Berra has a question about some lunar

3749
02:29:06,370 --> 02:29:02,210
mysteries what's the response Mike well

3750
02:29:07,870 --> 02:29:06,380
the words artifacts that I or possible

3751
02:29:10,060 --> 02:29:07,880
artifacts that I covered you know I

3752
02:29:13,840 --> 02:29:10,070
think dr. to of England on the moon and

3753
02:29:16,270 --> 02:29:13,850
what they are is that in the 1960s you

3754
02:29:19,450 --> 02:29:16,280
know or other two items were so in

3755
02:29:22,330 --> 02:29:19,460
orbiter - yeah primus 61 h3 took an

3756
02:29:24,100 --> 02:29:22,340
image of these objects I'm a lunar

3757
02:29:26,860 --> 02:29:24,110
surface it appeared to be casting very

3758
02:29:29,080 --> 02:29:26,870
very long and very very pointed shadows

3759
02:29:31,060 --> 02:29:29,090
flying that they had some sort of an

3760
02:29:33,100 --> 02:29:31,070
obelisk aspect to them and they were

3761
02:29:35,080 --> 02:29:33,110
very very much taller than they should

3762
02:29:37,929 --> 02:29:35,090
have been and nothing like that should

3763
02:29:41,040 --> 02:29:37,939
really exist on a lunar surface now

3764
02:29:43,540 --> 02:29:41,050
there was an argument to the effect that

3765
02:29:45,460 --> 02:29:43,550
what you were seeing was all the shadows

3766
02:29:48,330 --> 02:29:45,470
are just elongated because there's a

3767
02:29:49,990 --> 02:29:48,340
slope downhill around these particular

3768
02:29:51,490 --> 02:29:50,000
objects the so-called

3769
02:29:54,100 --> 02:29:51,500
where cuspids and they're named at

3770
02:29:55,929 --> 02:29:54,110
because Wayne Blair who worked I believe

3771
02:29:58,300 --> 02:29:55,939
I believe in work with the Boeing

3772
02:30:00,490 --> 02:29:58,310
Company said look if you look at these

3773
02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:00,500
things these shadows are very long

3774
02:30:05,170 --> 02:30:03,050
they're really on you know unusual

3775
02:30:07,300 --> 02:30:05,180
they're arranged in sort of a

3776
02:30:09,610 --> 02:30:07,310
configuration that appears to be related

3777
02:30:10,990 --> 02:30:09,620
to the geometry of a tetrahedron which

3778
02:30:13,959 --> 02:30:11,000
is you know all these a key thing that

3779
02:30:16,749 --> 02:30:13,969
sets up me or mr. Hobart

3780
02:30:18,819 --> 02:30:16,759
and he said if you were to ignore these

3781
02:30:21,159 --> 02:30:18,829
you saw these structures in a

3782
02:30:23,019 --> 02:30:21,169
reconnaissance photo of the earth you

3783
02:30:24,639 --> 02:30:23,029
would immediately send an archaeological

3784
02:30:26,619 --> 02:30:24,649
team there and start digging them up and

3785
02:30:28,539 --> 02:30:26,629
the controversy kind of went back and

3786
02:30:30,039 --> 02:30:28,549
forth of other people per massive cores

3787
02:30:32,139 --> 02:30:30,049
trying to suppress the interest in this

3788
02:30:35,709 --> 02:30:32,149
and it kind of sat there for a long time

3789
02:30:37,599 --> 02:30:35,719
and so some people in the 1990s from the

3790
02:30:40,449 --> 02:30:37,609
group called me GL which verified

3791
02:30:42,609 --> 02:30:40,459
gullible lunatics started doing some

3792
02:30:44,469 --> 02:30:42,619
work on the images the base of reasons

3793
02:30:46,239 --> 02:30:44,479
of reconstruction and said look this is

3794
02:30:49,989 --> 02:30:46,249
the shape of these things there's 70 or

3795
02:30:52,869 --> 02:30:49,999
80 we call at a minimum if there is no

3796
02:30:56,439 --> 02:30:52,879
no no depression or no don't fall off

3797
02:30:58,300 --> 02:30:56,449
the created these shadows then recently

3798
02:31:00,459 --> 02:30:58,310
Lunar Reconnaissance orbiters took an

3799
02:31:02,109 --> 02:31:00,469
image of the area and they've sort of

3800
02:31:05,559 --> 02:31:02,119
been relooked at and they appear to just

3801
02:31:07,300 --> 02:31:05,569
be small flat folders but the problem

3802
02:31:09,309 --> 02:31:07,310
with the LRO image which i think is

3803
02:31:11,529 --> 02:31:09,319
really interesting is that these objects

3804
02:31:13,359 --> 02:31:11,539
there's there's no way if you look at

3805
02:31:16,719 --> 02:31:13,369
the shadows in the original lunar

3806
02:31:18,699 --> 02:31:16,729
orbiter issue image Oh too bad there's

3807
02:31:21,039 --> 02:31:18,709
no way that the shadows that are tasked

3808
02:31:24,219 --> 02:31:21,049
could possibly be capped by objects as

3809
02:31:27,039 --> 02:31:24,229
small or as flat or as short as these

3810
02:31:28,959 --> 02:31:27,049
guys appear to be in the LRO image so

3811
02:31:30,459 --> 02:31:28,969
you kind of have a problem here which is

3812
02:31:32,769 --> 02:31:30,469
that there are the longest shadows in

3813
02:31:35,319 --> 02:31:32,779
the image by far and there's just no way

3814
02:31:36,789 --> 02:31:35,329
that they could be tapping shadows like

3815
02:31:39,189 --> 02:31:36,799
that unless they were a great deal

3816
02:31:40,749 --> 02:31:39,199
taller you also look at the LRO image

3817
02:31:43,809 --> 02:31:40,759
and it's pretty clear that there is no

3818
02:31:46,059 --> 02:31:43,819
fall-off there is no depression and it's

3819
02:31:48,399 --> 02:31:46,069
there really isn't any way for the

3820
02:31:51,159 --> 02:31:48,409
shadow to have been elongated by the

3821
02:31:53,199 --> 02:31:51,169
surface of the Moon so you still have I

3822
02:31:55,239 --> 02:31:53,209
think a pretty genuine controversy as to

3823
02:31:59,050 --> 02:31:55,249
what they really are how tall they

3824
02:32:01,329 --> 02:31:59,060
really are which I mean you have really

3825
02:32:02,880 --> 02:32:01,339
done an amazing job researching this

3826
02:32:05,380 --> 02:32:02,890
subject area and it is I think

3827
02:32:07,869 --> 02:32:05,390
fascinating I think a lot of people if

3828
02:32:10,019 --> 02:32:07,879
they knew how many weird anomalous

3829
02:32:12,279 --> 02:32:10,029
features can be found on nearby

3830
02:32:16,079 --> 02:32:12,289
planetary bodies and moons and stuff

3831
02:32:18,399 --> 02:32:16,089
they'd be pretty amazed out of all the

3832
02:32:21,969 --> 02:32:18,409
research that you've done all these

3833
02:32:24,539 --> 02:32:21,979
scrutinizing of images etc what do you

3834
02:32:27,660 --> 02:32:24,549
think are the most enigmatic structure

3835
02:32:31,380 --> 02:32:27,670
appearing to be structures that we have

3836
02:32:33,809 --> 02:32:31,390
evidence of on the moon what's the best

3837
02:32:34,290 --> 02:32:33,819
evidence of extraterrestrial artifacts

3838
02:32:36,510 --> 02:32:34,300
on the moon

3839
02:32:39,330 --> 02:32:36,520
well there's one that I really think is

3840
02:32:43,229 --> 02:32:39,340
is overwhelming and it is a an image

3841
02:32:46,139 --> 02:32:43,239
that was taken Apollo 15 at but they

3842
02:32:47,790 --> 02:32:46,149
just after transer injection and I don't

3843
02:32:49,110 --> 02:32:47,800
think I have the frame number with me

3844
02:32:50,490 --> 02:32:49,120
right now but it's in the book it's an

3845
02:32:55,950 --> 02:32:50,500
ancient aliens on the moon and what it

3846
02:33:01,380 --> 02:32:55,960
shows is it shows this Gavi greenish

3847
02:33:02,610 --> 02:33:01,390
bluish glow around the moon now to

3848
02:33:05,429 --> 02:33:02,620
understand you gotta understand

3849
02:33:08,010 --> 02:33:05,439
photography in the back here the only

3850
02:33:10,559 --> 02:33:08,020
way you can have a glow like that around

3851
02:33:12,840 --> 02:33:10,569
the moon and it's clearly stretches up

3852
02:33:13,920 --> 02:33:12,850
above the lunar surface you can see it

3853
02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:13,930
right on the edge of the moon right on

3854
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:15,850
the horizon there's just glowing stuff

3855
02:33:19,530 --> 02:33:18,250
stretching out you shouldn't see

3856
02:33:21,719 --> 02:33:19,540
anything like that what you should see

3857
02:33:25,410 --> 02:33:21,729
is absolute black you should see nothing

3858
02:33:27,479 --> 02:33:25,420
except the sharp defined outline of the

3859
02:33:30,059 --> 02:33:27,489
lunar surface instead you see this gaudy

3860
02:33:33,389 --> 02:33:30,069
hazy glow and that can only be one of

3861
02:33:37,200 --> 02:33:33,399
two things either it is an atmosphere

3862
02:33:39,000 --> 02:33:37,210
either the moon has airglow limbs like

3863
02:33:40,710 --> 02:33:39,010
the earth has unlike all other planets

3864
02:33:44,280 --> 02:33:40,720
with atmospheres have where there is a

3865
02:33:46,979 --> 02:33:44,290
sort of a ring around the planet or the

3866
02:33:49,710 --> 02:33:46,989
ball around the planet that is created

3867
02:33:51,780 --> 02:33:49,720
by the atmosphere or it is these glass

3868
02:33:53,399 --> 02:33:51,790
structures that homeland's been talking

3869
02:33:55,740 --> 02:33:53,409
about for fifteen or twenty years now

3870
02:33:58,050 --> 02:33:55,750
and then I talk about an inch and on the

3871
02:34:00,389 --> 02:33:58,060
moon that are reflecting and acting like

3872
02:34:03,630 --> 02:34:00,399
an atmosphere around the lunar surface

3873
02:34:05,880 --> 02:34:03,640
and that image is absolutely in suitable

3874
02:34:08,250 --> 02:34:05,890
there's only two things that could be

3875
02:34:10,290 --> 02:34:08,260
Navis there or it's the black structures

3876
02:34:12,929 --> 02:34:10,300
that coatings been talking about for a

3877
02:34:15,120 --> 02:34:12,939
long time so to my mind the evidence

3878
02:34:17,490 --> 02:34:15,130
that it's these glass towering glass

3879
02:34:19,080 --> 02:34:17,500
structures is really overwhelming and to

3880
02:34:21,979 --> 02:34:19,090
me I just think that's the one that

3881
02:34:25,229 --> 02:34:21,989
nobody nobody could possibly explain

3882
02:34:27,360 --> 02:34:25,239
nobody can refute because it's kind of

3883
02:34:30,149 --> 02:34:27,370
like it's not like the tidal bulges on

3884
02:34:32,490 --> 02:34:30,159
Mars you know two bulges 180 degrees

3885
02:34:34,139 --> 02:34:32,500
apart they're tidal bulges 100 percent

3886
02:34:36,030 --> 02:34:34,149
of the time we don't have to be back and

3887
02:34:37,649 --> 02:34:36,040
again either the moon as an atmosphere

3888
02:34:40,139 --> 02:34:37,659
or there's lot of structure is all

3889
02:34:41,429 --> 02:34:40,149
around with well here's one I think that

3890
02:34:43,410 --> 02:34:41,439
we we should

3891
02:34:44,969 --> 02:34:43,420
dress before we run out of time here and

3892
02:34:46,739 --> 02:34:44,979
I must say mike has been fascinating

3893
02:34:48,779 --> 02:34:46,749
done time has just flown by here it's

3894
02:34:51,389 --> 02:34:48,789
amazing uh it feels like we're just

3895
02:34:54,840 --> 02:34:51,399
getting started with the recent death of

3896
02:34:56,519 --> 02:34:54,850
Neil Armstrong some people have

3897
02:34:59,939 --> 02:34:56,529
mentioned some very interesting things

3898
02:35:01,469 --> 02:34:59,949
about his going into seclusion for so

3899
02:35:04,590 --> 02:35:01,479
many years not being publicly available

3900
02:35:07,109 --> 02:35:04,600
not making statements about his very

3901
02:35:08,819 --> 02:35:07,119
pivotal role in history and another

3902
02:35:10,620 --> 02:35:08,829
thing that most people don't don't know

3903
02:35:12,510 --> 02:35:10,630
is that one of the first things he did

3904
02:35:14,609 --> 02:35:12,520
do after returning from the moon his

3905
02:35:18,769 --> 02:35:14,619
mountain expedition I believe to Bolivia

3906
02:35:21,989 --> 02:35:18,779
to look for an underground repository of

3907
02:35:23,870 --> 02:35:21,999
ancient knowledge there's a really book

3908
02:35:26,609 --> 02:35:23,880
called Taos gold that talks about his

3909
02:35:29,429 --> 02:35:26,619
expedition down there what do you think

3910
02:35:31,559 --> 02:35:29,439
of Neil Armstrong and in the way for

3911
02:35:35,849 --> 02:35:31,569
decades that he was unwilling to talk

3912
02:35:36,899 --> 02:35:35,859
about his historic voyage and and some

3913
02:35:40,800 --> 02:35:36,909
of the conspiracy theories surrounding

3914
02:35:43,109 --> 02:35:40,810
that well I think you know he behaved

3915
02:35:45,300 --> 02:35:43,119
like somebody who was ashamed of his

3916
02:35:46,679 --> 02:35:45,310
role not like somebody who was proud of

3917
02:35:49,859 --> 02:35:46,689
his role and he did eventually write a

3918
02:35:51,960 --> 02:35:49,869
book which is a rope Beyond book with an

3919
02:35:54,809 --> 02:35:51,970
author which is pretty interesting but

3920
02:36:00,569 --> 02:35:54,819
kind of keeps the keeps the standard

3921
02:36:02,250 --> 02:36:00,579
line and you know I I don't he's a man

3922
02:36:04,349 --> 02:36:02,260
that appears to be very conflicted about

3923
02:36:07,109 --> 02:36:04,359
what he's experienced and what happened

3924
02:36:10,830 --> 02:36:07,119
and I do know this I have a friend named

3925
02:36:12,899 --> 02:36:10,840
Ken Johnson jr. who has supplied me and

3926
02:36:14,969 --> 02:36:12,909
hoagie with with a collection of

3927
02:36:17,689 --> 02:36:14,979
first-generation photographic prints

3928
02:36:20,489 --> 02:36:17,699
from the Apollo era which consistently

3929
02:36:22,380 --> 02:36:20,499
seem to be different than the images

3930
02:36:25,500 --> 02:36:22,390
that Hearst and and Carla in other words

3931
02:36:27,389 --> 02:36:25,510
ken has originals from the 1960s there

3932
02:36:29,580 --> 02:36:27,399
are prints that are different than what

3933
02:36:31,319 --> 02:36:29,590
now being placed on NASA websites and

3934
02:36:33,349 --> 02:36:31,329
this has kind of been a source of

3935
02:36:36,479 --> 02:36:33,359
controversy and dispute over the years

3936
02:36:39,269 --> 02:36:36,489
but one of the things that he told me

3937
02:36:41,790 --> 02:36:39,279
was that the the rumor at NASA and he

3938
02:36:43,649 --> 02:36:41,800
was working there at Kiamichi helps guys

3939
02:36:46,410 --> 02:36:43,659
like pale Armstrong finally know module

3940
02:36:48,210 --> 02:36:46,420
in fact Neil Armstrong gave him a letter

3941
02:36:49,380 --> 02:36:48,220
of recommendation to be in a second

3942
02:36:51,510 --> 02:36:49,390
group of bursaries for shuttle

3943
02:36:55,290 --> 02:36:51,520
astronauts back and went back in the day

3944
02:36:58,170 --> 02:36:55,300
and he said the rumor was

3945
02:36:59,910 --> 02:36:58,180
hot at the time in NASA but as soon as I

3946
02:37:02,130 --> 02:36:59,920
landed and he said the eagle has landed

3947
02:37:04,040 --> 02:37:02,140
and then through all that stuff that he

3948
02:37:06,780 --> 02:37:04,050
switched over to his private channel to

3949
02:37:08,010 --> 02:37:06,790
in doctors which all the astronauts had

3950
02:37:09,719 --> 02:37:08,020
they could speak to their doctor on a

3951
02:37:12,360 --> 02:37:09,729
private channel in any time and he did

3952
02:37:13,469 --> 02:37:12,370
say you know there's three shits there

3953
02:37:16,050 --> 02:37:13,479
on the rim of the crater

3954
02:37:18,300 --> 02:37:16,060
they're huge it's very scary what are we

3955
02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:18,310
supposed to do about this so you know

3956
02:37:22,020 --> 02:37:20,410
again whether that's true or not whether

3957
02:37:24,929 --> 02:37:22,030
he launched on willing with the

3958
02:37:26,790 --> 02:37:24,939
transmission I don't know but I will

3959
02:37:30,599 --> 02:37:26,800
tell you this that the rumor was hot

3960
02:37:33,030 --> 02:37:30,609
around NASA in July of 1969 that this

3961
02:37:35,250 --> 02:37:33,040
had happened when they had landed on the

3962
02:37:37,080 --> 02:37:35,260
moon and and that's if that's true that

3963
02:37:39,840 --> 02:37:37,090
explained I think a lot of had been a

3964
02:37:42,420 --> 02:37:39,850
willingness besides his loyalty the

3965
02:37:44,910 --> 02:37:42,430
security oh maybe the safety himself and

3966
02:37:46,710 --> 02:37:44,920
family it maybe explains on this

3967
02:37:49,860 --> 02:37:46,720
behavior it certainly didn't behave like

3968
02:37:51,540 --> 02:37:49,870
a guy who was interested or proud of

3969
02:37:52,650 --> 02:37:51,550
what do you want I'll tell you what Mike

3970
02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:52,660
wood just spent out of time

3971
02:37:56,580 --> 02:37:54,250
where do our listeners get more

3972
02:37:58,620 --> 02:37:56,590
information about what you're doing you

3973
02:38:03,630 --> 02:37:58,630
can go to you know on my blog at

3974
02:38:05,880 --> 02:38:03,640
blogspot.com you can go to hook up with

3975
02:38:07,740 --> 02:38:05,890
me on Facebook I've got a I've got a fan

3976
02:38:09,929 --> 02:38:07,750
page and a regular Facebook page and

3977
02:38:11,730 --> 02:38:09,939
pretty much up against the five thousand

3978
02:38:13,679 --> 02:38:11,740
threads limit at this point you can also

3979
02:38:15,420 --> 02:38:13,689
connect with me on Twitter I've got a

3980
02:38:17,250 --> 02:38:15,430
YouTube channel it all comes up in

3981
02:38:20,010 --> 02:38:17,260
Google just Google in my name like their

3982
02:38:22,080 --> 02:38:20,020
RV ara and you can find the book on

3983
02:38:25,340 --> 02:38:22,090
adventures go to Adventures unlimited

3984
02:38:27,780 --> 02:38:25,350
press calm and you can get a copy of

3985
02:38:30,300 --> 02:38:27,790
engineering on the moon also available

3986
02:38:30,809 --> 02:38:30,310
on amazon kindle and it should be in

3987
02:38:32,370 --> 02:38:30,819
stores

3988
02:38:34,500 --> 02:38:32,380
any day now it should be actually in

3989
02:38:36,660 --> 02:38:34,510
storage probably this week sounds good

3990
02:38:38,969 --> 02:38:36,670
to us Chris O'Brien can be found at our

3991
02:38:41,969 --> 02:38:38,979
strange planet calm our strange planet

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calm we are also on Twitter we're known

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as the para cast Mike Berra thanks for

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joining us this week on the para cast

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the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

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and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

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presentation of making the impossible in

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corporator